sorc/wiz?

[majeah1]

i want a nuker with a boatload of sp and wouldnt mind being able to change out spells free. i know the sorc has huge sp so i'm curious if a sorc wiz combo would be good or if there are better ways to go about it. any ideas are helpfull as i am fairly new to casters. i do have 32pt and vet if that helps. thanks for any help

[gavagai]

i want a nuker with a boatload of sp and wouldnt mind being able to change out spells free. i know the sorc has huge sp so i'm curious if a sorc wiz combo would be good or if there are better ways to go about it. any ideas are helpfull as i am fairly new to casters. i do have 32pt and vet if that helps. thanks for any help

Spell power scales with level. Level 20 Sorcs and level 20 Wizards also get bonuses to increase spell damage (sorc) and spell DC (Wiz).

Mixing the two classes makes you spells weaker for each class. Not a good idea!

Sounds like you want a pure Sorc.

[Spisey]

unless your building a battlecaster or trapmonkey wizzy, NEVER m/c caster!

[Ellyll]

Perhaps a more concise explanation of why you do not want to do this would be this:

You would have a L 10 wiz, and a L 10 sorc. The highest level spell you would be able to cast would be the same as a level 10 wiz could cast. You would, in actuality, be a L 10 caster, inside a L 20 body. The do not stack.

If you really want to go all nuke you should probably check out others sorc builds. I do not think you would have to swap spells very often if nuking is all you want.

[xtchizobr]

Perhaps a more concise explanation of why you do not want to do this would be this:

You would have a L 10 wiz, and a L 10 sorc. The highest level spell you would be able to cast would be the same as a level 10 wiz could cast. You would, in actuality, be a L 10 caster, inside a L 20 body. The do not stack.

If you really want to go all nuke you should probably check out others sorc builds. I do not think you would have to swap spells very often if nuking is all you want.

but a pure nuking sorc is a very crappy character.

[bashemgud]

but a pure nuking sorc is a very crappy character.

Wow that's some quality tips right there. Do you know anything about the arcane class, even more the sorcerer?

A nuke built is very viable and very powerful when using the right combination of spells. Enjoy WoB and FoD trash mobs.

[Newtons_Apple]

but a pure nuking sorc is a very crappy character.

My response to this post.

[Aspenor]

but a pure nuking sorc is a very crappy character.

hahahahahahahaha /catches breath ......

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you have no clue what you're talking about.

[newandoriginalname]

Sorc is designed for pure nuking, you will cast fast have lots of sp and will do more damage with your spells but you wont be able to change spells whenever you feel like it, you have to pay a hefty gold fine based on the spell lvl and wait 3 days before you can do it again.

Wiz is not as good at nuking casts slower and has less sp but is more flexable because of more skills and feats and changing spells whenever you like means you will always have the right spell for the job.

but a pure nuking sorc is a very crappy character.

This is true actually, if you only pick damage spells what are you going to do when the party expects you to charm stuff and you didn't pick it up?

Don't multiclass wiz and sorc, it just doesn't work.

I suggest making a wizard first. Sorc is limited by his spell selection, and you can only change one every 3 days. Wizards can swap spells when resting, as long as that spell is in his spell book, so you can play a wiz for a while, get to know the spells. And then once you have gained the expience you can then make your sorc and he will be that much better from the experiance you gained as a wizard.

I also suggest looking at the sorcerer handbook which is on this forum, it tells you what spells and feats to take.

[Bacab]

but a pure nuking sorc is a very crappy character.

He is kinda right, SOR needs haste and jump and resistance...though I really doubt this is where he was going

[Trillea]

This is true actually, if you only pick damage spells what are you going to do when the party expects you to charm stuff...

There is one - count them - one - quest that charming may even be considered somewhat necessary: Enter the Kobold, with ooze puppet.

Other than that, noone ever EXPECTS charm.

[Purgatory]

There is one - count them - one - quest that charming may even be considered somewhat necessary: Enter the Kobold, with ooze puppet.

Other than that, noone ever EXPECTS charm.

that even a waste of time, only comlete noob party need ooze puppet and still very unreliable, Id rather have a real person controling the agro then some charmed mob that can brake at any moment notice and then you have no control what so ever on agro at the point.

[dread333]

hahahahahahahaha /catches breath ......

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you have no clue what you're talking about.

LOL...Agreed.../signed...LMAO!

[Sequell]

Please...roll your build so I know not to let a 4 Wiz / 3 Sorc in any runs that i have. If you make it to that level by accident!

I can see it now...no HASTE! no FIREWALL! no USE!

Roll your character away! Hope you are a solo machine!

[Aspenor]

what are you going to do when the party expects you to charm stuff and you didn't pick it up?

Laugh at them and kill everything.

[Bobthesponge]

definately make a wizard first. not only will you learn spells and what you want to do with them but you will learn how to manage spell points. nothing worse than a sorc who is out of mana halfway through a fight because they have no clue. (really? weren't you just saying you had 2800 SP? and you're out?)

[majeah1]

thank you guys for the advice. sorry it took so long to get back, had net issues. =( i will take the advice and make a wizard first for sp control and learning spells. again thanks much. =)

[praetor]

a wizard is basically a gimped bard. it doesn't deal enough damage or have enough SP to match a sorc, and it doesn't buff enough to match a bard.

based on what you said, you want a sorc.

the only reason you would want a wiz is if you are too lazy to read up on spells or too proud to ask for advice from experienced players. a wiz will let you get away with screwing up your build (for the most part) and then rebuilding it.

[azrael4h]

a wizard is basically a gimped bard. it doesn't deal enough damage or have enough SP to match a sorc, and it doesn't buff enough to match a bard.

based on what you said, you want a sorc.

the only reason you would want a wiz is if you are too lazy to read up on spells or too proud to ask for advice from experienced players. a wiz will let you get away with screwing up your build (for the most part) and then rebuilding it.

Kinda funny you said a wiz is a gimped bard, when the bard in my guild told me that bards are gimped wizards; losing buffs, sp, and a gimped spell progression for a few song buffs, casting in light armor that'll quickly be irrelevant, and minor healing. Beats me, as I have never rolled a bard. But there's a reason I've never seen a call for a Bard to fill any slots in a pug, while I've seen people ask for a Wizard or Sorc constantly.

And no, a Wiz will not let you get away with screwing your build. No class will. What a Wizard can do is let you not worry about spell selection, as gold or adventuring can buy most spells you need or want, and you don't have to worry too much on what you bring as you can swap them out at a shrine. Not a big issue, since the number of truly must-have spells isn't all that great in DDO.

Wizards are better for new players for this reason; they can experiment with the spells while learning to conserve their sp and learning tactics needed for an arcane. When they switch to Sorc, they'll be just that much better for the experience.

[praetor]

But there's a reason I've never seen a call for a Bard to fill any slots in a pug

This quote alone should invalidate this user's entire post...

Here is my rebuttal: Raid.