Supersave Halfling monk,

[Vornado]

Halfling , 2 paladin/ 18 monk. (Er will be 18 monk once i get her levels)

Base stats:
Str=6/Dex=17/con=16/int=8/wis=15/chr=15

Went 2 lvls pally for divine grace/pally toughness/pally saves boost/pally charisma enhancement and focus of
good for the concentration boost. Aura of good is also a bit helpful me thinks.

So far ive gotten to level 4, 2 pally/2 monk.

Ive taken halfling dex/ luck(the fort and reflex) and racial toughness.
And monk wisdom enhancement.

At level 4 with nothing equiped i have str=6/dex=18/con=17(took +1 con when i leveled)/int=8/wis=16/chr=16

107 hp
75 ki
20 AC

Fort=15
Reflex=13
Will=11
( Note this is level 4 without any equip on.)

Feats taken so far: Toughness, two weapon fighting, weapon finesse, deflect arrows.

I looked around in monk and multiclass forums and hadn't seen anything like this so i thought i'd post it and see what people thought and any advice they might have.

Also i had heard that pally's went TWF/GTWF for dps builds cause the atk/dmg bonus went on the extra attacks
granted by the two feats. Can someone confirm this or no, if it does apply to the extra attacks im thinking of taking
the pally "Exra smite evil" enhancement offered. I know that the damage bonus wouldnt be great but adding 2Xcharisma mod to attack roll would really help.

Still trying to figure if i want to take path of dom or path of light.

And if way of the clever monkey would be the best choice for the enhancement route.

I plan on taking GTWF but still trying to figure what other feats would best enhance this build.

Oh i play on khyber and this characters name is Vornado.

[Newtons_Apple]

Halfling , 2 paladin/ 18 monk. (Er will be 18 monk once i get her levels)

Base stats:
Str=6/Dex=17/con=16/int=8/wis=15/chr=15

Went 2 lvls pally for divine grace/pally toughness/pally saves boost/pally charisma enhancement and focus of
good for the concentration boost. Aura of good is also a bit helpful me thinks.

So far ive gotten to level 4, 2 pally/2 monk.

Ive taken halfling dex/ luck(the fort and reflex) and racial toughness.
And monk wisdom enhancement.

At level 4 with nothing equiped i have str=6/dex=18/con=17(took +1 con when i leveled)/int=8/wis=16/chr=16

107 hp
75 ki
20 AC

Fort=15
Reflex=13
Will=11
( Note this is level 4 without any equip on.)

Feats taken so far: Toughness, two weapon fighting, weapon finesse, deflect arrows.

I looked around in monk and multiclass forums and hadn't seen anything like this so i thought i'd post it and see what people thought and any advice they might have.

Also i had heard that pally's went TWF/GTWF for dps builds cause the atk/dmg bonus went on the extra attacks
granted by the two feats. Can someone confirm this or no, if it does apply to the extra attacks im thinking of taking
the pally "Exra smite evil" enhancement offered. I know that the damage bonus wouldnt be great but adding 2Xcharisma mod to attack roll would really help.

Still trying to figure if i want to take path of dom or path of light.

And if way of the clever monkey would be the best choice for the enhancement route.

I plan on taking GTWF but still trying to figure what other feats would best enhance this build.

Oh i play on khyber and this characters name is Vornado.

You will regret having that low a strength from the second you hit the ground. Plus don't forget halflings can't carry as much as full sized humanoids. When you become encumbered, you'll lose your centering...

[Vornado]

Yeah i know the strength is a issue, as at the moment with a handful of pots and the gear im wearing if i pick up a shield and a set of ha im uncentered. Im planning on addressing the issue with a tome.

I haven't worked all the numbers out yet as this is still a work in progress.

[Impatiens]

You definitely need more strength. You will get burdened so easily with that low of a base strength not to mention how little damage you will do.

[phalaeo]

Not even a +2 tome will fix that for you in the long run.

Trust me, I have a Cleric/Monk multiclass (Halfling) and I LR'ed just to change my starting STR from a 10 to 12.

[Vornado]

Quick revamp,,

Base: 12 str/17 dex/ 14 con/ 8 int/ 14 wis/ 14 chr.

Same enhancements/feats.

Lvl 4:
12 str/18 dex/ 14 con/ 8 int/ 15 wis/ 15 chr.

90 hp/75 ki/ 20 ac..

Saves:13fort/12 reflex/ 11 will.


well as far as tomes go, isnt there a +4 str tome ,, i know others max at +2. But thought i seen a +4 str tome listed somewhere.

Well thats for the quick revamp,,, the extra 6 str bumped load on my inv by a few hundred lbs.

[Taimasan]

I have only seen +4 Tomes drop in Epic VON6 and Tower of Despair raid, and those are extremely rare, I would not plan your build on anything higher than +2 tomes unless your TR'ing and have some in the bank.

[AaronB]

Unless you're doing this as a novelty, is it really necessary to have saves that high? Unless they're going str build and dump wis and dex, a halfling monk will have fantastic saves anyway. You really have to sacrifice quite a bit of other abilities and stats just to get saves that won't make that much of a difference beyond what you would have had with a more typical build.

[Mhykke]

You don't need the 2 pally levels. Your saves will be more than fine w/o them.

[Arvess]

what is the pally for? Monks get great saves...any more would be overkill. I would go the other direction of 2 monk/19 pally. Paladins get excellent dps boost enhancements while monks rely on level ups.

clever monkey is a very good animal path to take

[Vornado]

Yeah it was kind of a novelty idea.
Was thinking it would be a bit nicer to have about +25 to saves before figuring in the dex/con/wis and gear bonus components than just goin straight monk and having +16 as a 20 halfling monk.

[NXPlasmid]

what is the pally for? Monks get great saves...any more would be overkill. I would go the other direction of 2 monk/19 pally. Paladins get excellent dps boost enhancements while monks rely on level ups.

clever monkey is a very good animal path to take

seems like with monks it's either 2 levels or 20, I think it's hard to justify anything else when all the pros and cons are weighed...

[IgorHackNSlasher]

Personally I think you are making a mistake by splashing 2 palli on a monk. The bonuses to saves are not worth what you are giving up from the monk capstone. You are also taking 2 classes that are spread thin on stats and streaching them thinner (not a good idea). Endgame vialbility of this will not be nearly as good as a pure monk or a reverse split, palli 18/monk 2.

[DrakmireTS]

Your saves are going to be good enough as a pure monk for non-epic stuff, and inconsequential on epic. I rolled 19 (+54) on a spike trap in Von2 and still died horribly.

[Arvess]

its good to think outside the box. building a toon in the character generator and shooting the breeze on the forums is a minimal investment for creativity.

[LAWPRE]

I have a Pal/Monk combo and I am leaning towards Pal14/Monk6 Pal 14 for Zeal and Hunter of the Dead I,II. Monk 6 for FoL (for when I can't smite or turn) and Purity of Body. Also, was thinking Pal12/Monk8 in order to get wholeness of body and more unarmed strike damage. I am not planning on doing any Epic content and not really planning on doing content beyond the Vale. So, truly endgme stuff is not an issue.

You can do a similar line but take Knight of the Chalice as there are more Demons and Devils at endgame. Still, I would be more inclined to go Pal18/Monk2 in this case.

[Vornado]

Yeah been thinking bout it a bit and rollin the #'s,, it looks good at lower levels but the high end is where it would suffer.

I am wanting a halfling monk tho for the ac/atk bonus along with the save bonuses.

Ill drop the 2 pally, split the char up as evenly as i can,,,and roll with it.