Ranger18/fighter2 v. Fighter12/ranger6

[--ChaosTheory--]

Does Ranger18/Fighter2 Tempest or Fighter12/Ranger6/2extra Kensai/Tempest have higher DPS fully kitted out? I figure they would be close but I'm not enough of a number cruncher to figure out the finer points myself. The Ranger heavy build obviously has the extra attack but the kensai build has powersurge/haste/better specs.

Thanks.

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

The latter, I believe, but they are pretty close without haste boosts. The 12/6/2 is a well-known build commonly referred to as "The Monster." A quick search should get some build specifics and way too many damage calculations.

[Paragon]

The latter definitely trumped the first back when the Monster was designed. I haven't seen numbers run comparing these builds since the Update 1 changes to combat mechanics and attack speeds yet, but I would guess the Monster still does a little better overall.

[Ulf]

The 12ftr gives kensai II, so +2/4 dmg, power surge, haste boost. 18 rngr get extra attack per chain. Both get +2 toHit. The extra attack of 18 rngr is offset by the haste boost of the 12 ftr. So the damage per swing can be compared.

Against the two common FEs:
12 ftr gives +6 dmg per non crit +24 per crit (x3 mod weap)
18 rngr gives +2 dmg per non-drit +6 per crit (x3 mod weap)

Against extra two FEs:
12 ftr gives +6 dmg per non crit +24 per crit (x3 mod weap)
18 rngr gives +4 dmg per non-drit +12 per crit (x3 mod weap)

Against non-FEs
12 ftr gives +6 dmg per non crit +24 per crit (x3 mod weap)
18 rngr gives +0 dmg per non-drit +0 per crit (x3 mod weap)

This obviously ignores other side benefits like barkskin, feats, shield D while TWF, etc...

[Aaxeyu]

The 12 fighter/6 ranger is indeed better if it's DPS you are after.

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