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    I just switched in Chain Lightning to give it a whirl since there's quite a bit of talk about it being 'fixed'.

    Unfortunately, it worked for me something in the region of 1 in 20 times. I have read a couple of other threads on chain lightning, and tried my best to do all the actions suggested (cast while jumping so there is clear LoS to target, do not let anything get between me and target) to no avail. I have been trying the spell on some mobs in the Vale and even had around 10 spiders chasing me at one time. Even then the spell hit only 1 target which was so disappointing.

    Am I doing something wrong? Or is the spell still bugged and not really worth the time?

    Thanks for the help.

    Edit: Ah, sorry for the thread title, thought the C**p word was fine in the forums. :P
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    I have seen improved cases of it not fizzling completely (no damage to anything) but I have seen absolutely no improvement in its ability to actually chain to other targets (basically I use it like polar ray, now, and never as an AOE).
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    Why don't I have the trouble getting this spell to chain that others do? I guess Turbine might have a little bit more work to do on it. Bug report it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspenor View Post
    Why don't I have the trouble getting this spell to chain that others do? I guess Turbine might have a little bit more work to do on it. Bug report it.
    I would like to know as well lol. Fraps it working for us naysayers!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspenor View Post
    Why don't I have the trouble getting this spell to chain that others do? I guess Turbine might have a little bit more work to do on it. Bug report it.
    Indeed, I made a thread myself on this very subject a short while ago. I think you also stated that you had more
    trouble in Shavarath? I postulated that teleporting mobs increase the 'unreliability' of the chaining effect.

    I think increasing the casting speed (to what a sorceror should get) may also help with this.

    I've bugged this again recently, I'd suggest everyone who experiences issues bugs it as well.

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    Bad thing is when undead wizards cast chain lightening it has no problem hitting me and everyone else in my party...

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    I have had really good luck getting it to chain for me in shavarath content. Works 90% when I have a clear line of sight.
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    1. What race is everyone playing?
    2. Are you hard targeting, soft targeting, or just shooting?
    3. Do you play with a mouse ala FPS shooter or do you play strictly with a keyboard?

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    I believe these 3 questions will solve a lot of the issues we are having. Because like you, chain lighting doesn't work still, and cone of cold never hits targets that are within the graphic of the cone.

    The reason for the race question is the fact that height changes for the race, which changes the height at which the spell casts. I think this effects issues, or it could be one race that has issues. I don't know.

    The reason for the 2nd question should be self explanitory.

    The reason for the 3rd question is the fact that mouse look changes the "angle" at which you are shooting. A fixed camera ala keyboard play style does not change the angle you are shooting. Typically the keyboard player is the default angle and just pulled back (default mouse wheel action.)

    Lets give them some data rather than just complain it still doesn't work. What conditions we play with are probably not the same that they tested.

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    1. drow
    2. all three, no noticeable change of effect.
    3. keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing_Minds View Post
    1. What race is everyone playing?
    2. Are you hard targeting, soft targeting, or just shooting?
    3. Do you play with a mouse ala FPS shooter or do you play strictly with a keyboard?

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    I believe these 3 questions will solve a lot of the issues we are having. Because like you, chain lighting doesn't work still, and cone of cold never hits targets that are within the graphic of the cone.

    The reason for the race question is the fact that height changes for the race, which changes the height at which the spell casts. I think this effects issues, or it could be one race that has issues. I don't know.

    The reason for the 2nd question should be self explanitory.

    The reason for the 3rd question is the fact that mouse look changes the "angle" at which you are shooting. A fixed camera ala keyboard play style does not change the angle you are shooting. Typically the keyboard player is the default angle and just pulled back (default mouse wheel action.)

    Lets give them some data rather than just complain it still doesn't work. What conditions we play with are probably not the same that they tested.

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    1. drow
    2. all three, no noticeable change of effect.
    3. keyboard.
    1. Drow
    2. hard target
    3. keyboard
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    1. human
    2. hard target + jumping
    3. mouse-look mode for targetting AoE's (not applicable in this case, I think) and keyboard for casting and movement

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    1. Drow
    2. hard target or no target (and typically jumping)
    3. keyboard (typically but have tried the other way too to try and get it to work)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadhi View Post
    1. Drow
    2. hard target or no target (and typically jumping)
    3. keyboard (typically but have tried the other way too to try and get it to work)
    You have soft targeting disabled? I really should have specified that in my post, but completely forgot about that. I run with soft targeting on, but to "turn it off" I select myself in the focus window.

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    My wife's two casters.

    1. halfling (sorc)
    2. hard and soft targeting. does not jump.
    3. keyboard

    no problems hitting multiples at all.

    1. halfling (wizard)
    2. hard and soft targeting.
    3. keyboard

    little problems hitting targets, but HATES the slower casting speed. When I say "little problem" I mean 8 times out of 10 she hits without issue, but 2 out of the 10 she "misses" like I do. aka hits one, and nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctigis View Post
    Indeed, I made a thread myself on this very subject a short while ago. I think you also stated that you had more
    trouble in Shavarath? I postulated that teleporting mobs increase the 'unreliability' of the chaining effect.

    I think increasing the casting speed (to what a sorceror should get) may also help with this.

    I've bugged this again recently, I'd suggest everyone who experiences issues bugs it as well.
    I blame it on this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I'm still having trouble getting this to chain. Might give it a few more days before I regretfully swap it back out for Acid Fog or something.

    Anyway, here's my info:

    1. Human
    2. Tried both hard target and soft target (jumping and no jumping)
    3. Keyboard

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    I find this spell works fine if u do it properly, that is u have to hard target and be in direct like of sight with the target, there cannot be another mob or obstacle between u and ur hard target.

    It's another spell like meteor swarm that takes some finesse to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vVAnjilaVv View Post
    I find this spell works fine if u do it properly, that is u have to hard target and be in direct like of sight with the target, there cannot be another mob or obstacle between u and ur hard target.

    It's another spell like meteor swarm that takes some finesse to use.
    I can do it that way and still NOTHING else is hit. Single target. Electric Loop hits more targets. So instead of saying it works fine when the rest of us are not, why not edit your post with same data we have but denote that you CAN hit multiple targets.

    I posted my character that can't (dark elf), and I posted my wife's two characters that can (2 halflings). Please give us more data to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing_Minds View Post
    You have soft targeting disabled?.
    Absolutely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadhi View Post
    Absolutely.
    Soft targetting sucks donkey ****. Especially on a finesse nuker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_robinsonchia View Post
    Soft targetting sucks donkey ****. Especially on a finesse nuker.
    Every time I see that, I always wonder why a player knows what sucking a donkeys is like to be able to much said comparison. 1/2 second later I realize I really don't want to know.

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