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    Default Monk n00b needs some tips

    Looking to spend one of my reincarnates as a monk. Will be wf'd for sure. Outside of that looking for a fun build (pure monk though).

    34 pt build. +2's in any stat is fine. Wont be farming any rediculous gear except maybe devout handwraps (shadow crypt I think) and have one ring from tower to craft on (holy burst?)

    I have a few sets of handwraps, nothing too special, but would like to go unarmed. I will want tier IV of wind stance for attack speed. I prefer a str based build as Im not giong to farm a ton of ac gear. I do have dodge thee on my dt docent already. I will be looking to do dps mostly with decent survivability but no need for super untouchable ac.

    Any thoughts from the monk monk experts (who are the monk experts anywho?)

    Thanks in advance.
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    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=14

    I'm planning on doing the same thing but dwarf. Same principle though.

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    The end is nigh! Quik is playing a monk!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rest View Post
    The end is nigh! Quik is playing a monk!!
    Helpful tips, not whacked out prophecies. Crazy old unshaven, unshowered guy on the street corner yelling at everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster
    Looking to spend one of my reincarnates as a monk.
    How long do you expect to have said character stay as a monk? If, for instance, you are just reincarnating out of it the moment you hit level 20 then things like Holy Burst on rings with Incredible Potential and being a pure monk for things like Perfect Self won't matter, and thus may change the advice you are given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    Helpful tips, not whacked out prophecies. Crazy old unshaven, unshowered guy on the street corner yelling at everyone!
    If I were you, I'd check out this build: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=210181

    My currently level 12 monk is based on this build pretty closely. He was a ranger in a past life, and I took the barkskin feat cause I wanna.

    As of right now, being wisdom based is a lot of fun, and really helps with the DCs of my special attacks, but I may end up doing a lesser and giving him more STR. He is currently wearing a +6 item and is at 20 str.

    Here is his myDDO page. Yes. He sucks. I know. I'm a noob still wearing crappy ****. Next level I start getting my raid gear, and I am excited! PLEASE DON'T JUDGE ME AND EXCLUDE ME FROM YOUR RAIDS!! (We all know how you are, Quik )


    But I'd suggest checking that thread out if not for the build at least for some monk tips. A lot of good info in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rest View Post
    If I were you, I'd check out this build: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=210181

    My currently level 12 monk is based on this build pretty closely. He was a ranger in a past life, and I took the barkskin feat cause I wanna.

    As of right now, being wisdom based is a lot of fun, and really helps with the DCs of my special attacks, but I may end up doing a lesser and giving him more STR. He is currently wearing a +6 item and is at 20 str.

    Here is his myDDO page. Yes. He sucks. I know. I'm a noob still wearing crappy ****. Next level I start getting my raid gear, and I am excited! PLEASE DON'T JUDGE ME AND EXCLUDE ME FROM YOUR RAIDS!! (We all know how you are, Quik )


    But I'd suggest checking that thread out if not for the build at least for some monk tips. A lot of good info in there.
    I use this build also, with a lot of success. You can get by with lowering int and increasing another stat of your choice, as CE isn't really needed. I subbed in SF:UMD. Skills I use are Concentration, UMB maxed and some balance, jump in for good measure. Other builds may get posted, but this one is used by a lot of people and has been successful for some time.
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    I've been using a build similar to http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199659 i went dark path and at level 4 its pretty kickass, some ppl might not like the build and prefer the rockin robin build but imho this build is 10x more fun than the rockin robin one, and since ur not looking for crazy AC like every monk and their mother is, you might like this one

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    Rockan Robin is one of the best, if not THE best monk template out there.

    It's laid out very well, gives a description of how the build was made and which feats were taken for what reason.

    It also has hundreds of replies/suggestions which were discounted or incorporated into the build.

    HOWEVER, you asked for a WF and the Rockan Robin is a halfling sneak attacker. You said you liked str based characters, Rockan Robin is a finesser.

    Hence my post of my build. I created it based on a question about my own reincarnation idea. Other people talked about playing similar builds (I was originally going to be wis focuses for higher dcs and monk ac but people who had played wis and str monks said they were building str monks from now on).

    If you're still thinking of going WF str monk, just change the race of the monk I posted and go to town. If you just want a monk that's fun to play and can't grow facial hair the Rockan Robin can do that and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCow View Post
    How long do you expect to have said character stay as a monk? If, for instance, you are just reincarnating out of it the moment you hit level 20 then things like Holy Burst on rings with Incredible Potential and being a pure monk for things like Perfect Self won't matter, and thus may change the advice you are given.
    Not sure how long I will play it past 20, but I want to stay pure for the experience. As far as the holy burst, I have a ring to add that too, that I wont be using for anything else ( a few extra rings actually). Med ingred and shards are no biggie, so crafting that isnt really a big deal. Basically looking for ideas on the build itself so I can get a good monk experience and get more bang for my buck so to speak. This may be the only monk I play to cap, and I dont want to be shortchanged.

    I know what 90+ ac feels like so if this guy doesnt have that, im not going to be sad, I can imagine what it feels like to play a huge ac once I experience the other goodness of monks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Chonas View Post
    Rockan Robin is one of the best, if not THE best monk template out there.

    It's laid out very well, gives a description of how the build was made and which feats were taken for what reason.

    It also has hundreds of replies/suggestions which were discounted or incorporated into the build.

    HOWEVER, you asked for a WF and the Rockan Robin is a halfling sneak attacker. You said you liked str based characters, Rockan Robin is a finesser.

    Hence my post of my build. I created it based on a question about my own reincarnation idea. Other people talked about playing similar builds (I was originally going to be wis focuses for higher dcs and monk ac but people who had played wis and str monks said they were building str monks from now on).

    If you're still thinking of going WF str monk, just change the race of the monk I posted and go to town. If you just want a monk that's fun to play and can't grow facial hair the Rockan Robin can do that and more.

    I never stated I liked str based characters, I stated I would prefer str based on this build as Im not going to grind out another ac build that will simply be reincarnated to something else. I also it will be wf'd for sure. That has not, and will not change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    I never stated I liked str based characters, I stated I would prefer str based on this build as Im not going to grind out another ac build that will simply be reincarnated to something else. I also it will be wf'd for sure. That has not, and will not change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
    Chowned.
    Yes you were. He said this character would be a str-based warforged monk therefore any suggestions of Rockan Robin are going against what he asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Chonas View Post
    Yes you were. He said this character would be a str-based warforged monk therefore any suggestions of Rockan Robin are going against what he asked.
    He specifically asked for input from and I quote "Any thoughts from the monk monk experts". AFAIK you haven't ran a monk, but you did submit a build that hasn't been tested, and lists feats that, IMHO may not be the best for a monk. Thanks for playing, Vern, you can get your parting gift at the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
    He specifically asked for input from and I quote "Any thoughts from the monk monk experts". AFAIK you haven't ran a monk, but you did submit a build that hasn't been tested, and lists feats that, IMHO may not be the best for a monk. Thanks for playing, Vern, you can get your parting gift at the door.
    I'm not an expert, but the people who commented on my original build idea, which led to the one I posted here are.

    And they've all been here longer than 5 months . . .

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    the link is solid and in reading why the poster chose certain stats and feats, I gain insight to what I need to do in order to enjoy playing. Really I dont want to argue if someones post is contributing or not. Im not an idiot, I can look at a link and quickly determine if it is going to help or not. The rockin robinn link helps outside of stat allocation. So lets not get into that guys post is wrong, you got pwnd blah blah blah.

    Id would much prefer, "Hey with that build your only going to be able to get X stance, or your not going to stun anything past the vale with that wis score" etc.

    Cool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rest View Post
    If I were you, I'd check out this build: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=210181

    My currently level 12 monk is based on this build pretty closely. He was a ranger in a past life, and I took the barkskin feat cause I wanna.

    As of right now, being wisdom based is a lot of fun, and really helps with the DCs of my special attacks, but I may end up doing a lesser and giving him more STR. He is currently wearing a +6 item and is at 20 str.

    Here is his myDDO page. Yes. He sucks. I know. I'm a noob still wearing crappy ****. Next level I start getting my raid gear, and I am excited! PLEASE DON'T JUDGE ME AND EXCLUDE ME FROM YOUR RAIDS!! (We all know how you are, Quik )


    But I'd suggest checking that thread out if not for the build at least for some monk tips. A lot of good info in there.
    Cmon now, i rarely exlude anyone. Someone commented in guild chat the other day that Im hard on newbs. My response was, I take more newbs through quests and raids then anyone else in the guild. The response was, "Well, yeah you do"

    I figure that gives me the right to let them know when the suck and how to unsuck (stole that from someone, but I like it and its mine )

    Not saying your a newb, but the point was I dont exclude anyone because of their play so long as they A. listen and learn when necessary, and B arnt pricks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toucheh View Post
    I've been using a build similar to http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199659 i went dark path and at level 4 its pretty kickass, some ppl might not like the build and prefer the rockin robin build but imho this build is 10x more fun than the rockin robin one, and since ur not looking for crazy AC like every monk and their mother is, you might like this one
    Read that one last night I believe, thanks for your input.
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    I also have a tempest kama using monk that is a blast to play, but quite low on the DPS scale. 12/6/2 monk/ranger/rogue. He is a solo monster, but certainly not a DPS heavy hitter. It really all comes down to how you intend to play.

    Viiktor is my only "real" monk as he uses unbalancing strike, touch of death and stunning fist etc. It's looking like he will end up at about 32-34 wisdom. At level 20 his stunning fist will be 10(base) + 20(level) + 11/12(wis modifier) = 41/42 DC. It's a fort save (I think) so that should give you an idea of where the stunning fist will stop being effective.


    As a WF monk, you can take WF power attack and hate generation and be able to take and hold aggro. Being dex based would be nice to keep your to-hit higher when you're rocking that -8 from WF PA. The Black Mantis guild leader has a dex-based WF monk that he enjoys quite a bit. . Also, the leader from Twisted Metal just got his WF monk to 20. Talking to them might help you with some insight.

    I am far from an expert in anything (especially monks) so take my advice with a huge grain of salt. And then add salt to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    Cmon now, i rarely exlude anyone. Someone commented in guild chat the other day that Im hard on newbs. My response was, I take more newbs through quests and raids then anyone else in the guild. The response was, "Well, yeah you do"

    I figure that gives me the right to let them know when the suck and how to unsuck (stole that from someone, but I like it and its mine )

    Not saying your a newb, but the point was I dont exclude anyone because of their play so long as they A. listen and learn when necessary, and B arnt pricks.
    LOL actually I've only run with you a few times and I'm just kidding about excluding me. QE players are, in general, far and above me in terms of play ability. I do listen well however and as long as I haven't been drinking and get on mic I'm not a prick.

    GL with your monk and maybe I'll run with you when you roll em up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    the link is solid and in reading why the poster chose certain stats and feats, I gain insight to what I need to do in order to enjoy playing. Really I dont want to argue if someones post is contributing or not. Im not an idiot, I can look at a link and quickly determine if it is going to help or not. The rockin robinn link helps outside of stat allocation. So lets not get into that guys post is wrong, you got pwnd blah blah blah.

    Id would much prefer, "Hey with that build your only going to be able to get X stance, or your not going to stun anything past the vale with that wis score" etc.

    Cool?
    The build I posted COULD take all 4 grandmaster stances, but you'll probably only want tier I water, GM earth and wind (need the I water for unbalancing strike). Depending on your +3 tome availability you could bump the stats higher than they are (I didn't factor them in though since it was for my personal use and I'll only have one +3).

    From what I've heard in other posts regarding stunning fist/blow and dc with a similar build, this guy should be able fill the support dps, melee cc roles very well (even at endgame/epic against trash especially).

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