Krythen: Tempest 13/6/1 Rogue Refined Forum Post
13 Rogue / 6 Ranger / 1 Monk
Halfling: Lawful Good
STATS:EDIT: This is the refined posting of Krythen. My original build of Krythen was a little confusing: it required +2 tomes, and was build in Mod8. This is the same level breakdown, but hopefully it will be easier for a newer player to read, follow, and build.
BASE (END MOD) +BREAKDOWN
16 Strength
16 Dexterity
14 Constitution
8 Intelligence
8 Wisdom
8 Charisma
(For 32 pt build, got 16 CON)
Ability Increase at level 4,12,16,20 goes into STR
Ability Increase at level 8 goes into DEX!!!
FEATS:
ARMOR CLASS
Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy:
Goblinoid
Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Level 4 (Ranger)
Level 5 (Rogue)
Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Level 7 (Rogue)
Level 8 (Ranger)
Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency:
Khopesh
Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Level 11 (Rogue)
Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing
Weapons
Level 13 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Level 14 (Rogue)
Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 16 (Rogue)
Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Level 19 (Rogue)
Level 20 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Cripling Strike
I run around with ~50 AC self-buffed because I swapped most AC gear for DPS gear.
HP BREAKDOWN
Rogue (6 per level) 78Total: ~421
Ranger (8 per level) 48
Monk (8 per level) 8
Con: 120
Heroic Durability: 20
Draconic Vitality: 10
Minos Legens: 20
GS/ MIN II Item: 45
GFL: 30
Toughness 22
Racial Toughness II 20
+Madstone/Rage
SKILLS
The skills for this build are a little complicated. However, if you follow the exact progression closely, you will have MAX ROGUE skills, despite starting with 8 INT, and only being 13 levels of Rogue.
This is accomplished by alternating ranger and rogue levels in the beginning. This maximizes the most amount of skills for your invested skill points. Below I will post the character planner export... follow those plans EXACT.
ENHANCEMENTS LEVEL 20:
This is just a sample: you can set your enhancements any way you want.
EDIT: Let me re-phrase this I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR ENHANCEMENTS ARE.
TOTAL: 80 AP
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing IV
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enjoy! And as always: if you have any questions, concerns, comments, unsure what to do, or otherwise confused, feel free to post in this thread or send me a PM
This has been yet another build by Krythan! If you give me credit, call me Krythan. Like my builds: read more in my signature!
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03-01-2010, 09:36 PM #1Community Member
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Krythen: Tempest Rogue 13/6/1 - Refined
Last edited by Goldeneye; 04-16-2010 at 02:43 PM.
Check out my: My Index of Builds / My Capped Characters on Khyber: Krythan II / Velkro Sorcerer / Krythen 13/6/1 Rogue
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03-01-2010, 09:37 PM #2Community Member
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As promised: here is the feat/skill progression
Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Search (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Goblinoid
Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Level 4 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Level 8 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Level 10 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Level 12 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 16 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Level 20 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Cripling StrikeCheck out my: My Index of Builds / My Capped Characters on Khyber: Krythan II / Velkro Sorcerer / Krythen 13/6/1 Rogue
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03-01-2010, 10:47 PM #3Community Member
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I was wondering here, what makes Damage Boost attractive enough to put so many points into? Do you often run out of Haste Boosts in situations where you use them?
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03-01-2010, 10:50 PM #4Community Member
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On my rogue I use them all the time. Considering the boosts are only 20 seconds each, I normally use them all up every quest. They come especially handy on enemies with heavy fort or thick DR, the damage boost adds some much needed damage when you aren't getting sneak attack.
Originally Posted by MeasureZero
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03-02-2010, 08:51 AM #5Community Member
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Forgive my ignorance, but are the ki attacks usable while uncentered? Is it really worth it to put the points in Concentration?
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03-02-2010, 12:06 PM #6Community Member
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Ah yes, forgive my lack of clarification. Krythen uses concentration in the same sense that casters use concentration: to not get interrupted while casting. Originally Posted by ArtosKincaid
The classic situation:- you are the last person alive
- every monster is attacking you
- you are running for your life
- with UMD, rez scrolls, and heal scrolls you can get the party back up
- if you didn't have concentration, your scrolls will get interrupted.
This has happened soo many times on Krythen. Allows you to be the hero that saves the party from a wipe.Check out my: My Index of Builds / My Capped Characters on Khyber: Krythan II / Velkro Sorcerer / Krythen 13/6/1 Rogue
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03-02-2010, 02:07 PM #7Community Member
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Cant use any ki abilities when uncentered. When uncentered, even if your kipool has recently been filled, it slowly dwindles.
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01-20-2011, 11:08 PM #8Community Member
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where is the planner export? Originally Posted by Goldeneye
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08-12-2011, 06:48 AM #9Community Member
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if you gonna do 13 rogue/6 ranger/ 1 other class than you should think of:
1. get Acrobat 2 for this build its way much beter the any other rogue prestige, why - you get movement speed bonus, immunity to knockdown and fom (thats big benefit) also skill to activate "showtime" gets you some boosts that are good for this build.
Mechanic is crapy anyway you only get boosts for skills, and Assassin 2 is not really worth it, people think "assassinate skill" is good but it has cooldown, you usuly get to kill one or two mobs with it and you need inteligence for it, and SA is not that much of a big deal also
2. STATS
-if you have 32 point build go with human (you have free feat, and healing amp, along with possibility to get +1 to two different stats
numbers would be:
18
15
12
12
8
8
why: you want max str for damage and hit bonuse, 15 dex is enough since you get TWF and ITWF from ranger, and by the time you get to levle to pick GTWF you can get +2 dex tome, and 19 dex with items and buffs also gets you enough reflex save and since youll have improved evasion thats very good
con 12 is enough for HP since oyu have alot of boosts later in game to gain alot of HP, even with con 12 you can get to 400 HP thats enough for this kind of a build
12 int is for skills, with it you can get nice skill, max you trap skills, hide and move silently, and once you get Acrobat 2 you can ignore balance and tumble
3. Items and feats
for items, if you dont wanna spend feat in khopesh or for some reason you cant, you can use scimitars since you have ranger class, scimitars are lil less better then khopeshes but still can rock reall good
for feats you need to think ahead what you want, if you plan on using acrobat 2 and tempest 1 you need alot of feats for tempest 1 that gives you some benefits for TWF
for use of UMD on items, well since your ranger you can use healing wands for free, so UMD for scorls like teleport and so on, there are some items that grants you spells like greater heroism (planar gird), haste and rage, look that up on ddo wiki and forums
4. for those who dont have 32 point build
- use drow, you can unlock him with 400 favor
stats:
17
16
12
12
8
10
you can get +1 books for str and dex easy, and later +2 str book
- if you dont have a drow and you want this to be your first toon (since first toon gets turbine bonus for favor) and you want to max that use human with this stats:
16
16
12
12
8
8
once again you can use +1 dex tome to get it to 17 for GTWF and later tomes for other stats, str and con mostly
there are some more things to think about but try to figue out them by yourselfe
P.S. sorry for spelling errors didnt had to much time to writhe this
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