which is better armor for an ac pally?

[manumase]

still a noob at tanking, only just reached level 6, but i wanna plan ahead for end game, my tank seems decent enough, dots his i's and crosses the T's, (soloed tangleroot and deleras (cept part 2 where had someone come and pull lever but kill nothing) both norm) so am just wondering, after looking cant decide whether to go for dragon touched, or full plate of the defender (VoD), and also, if i did go for dragon touched, what would i put on it?

Full Plate of the Defender - +5 Mithral full plate: Heavy Fortification, Competence To-hit bonus +2, Protection +4

(for those who cba to look up the full plate of the defender)

[elraido]

It all depends as to what your dex is and if you are taking say Defender of Siberys as a prestige class. IF you have a base dex of 10, and a +6 item you will want to use the dragon touched armor. That will basically give you the max dex bonus for the armor in stance. If you have a higher dex, look at the Full Plate of the Defender.

[manumase]

got 13 dex atm 12 base + 1 dex tome unbuffed, only got a dex +1 item atm (still after the 1 from tangleroot that gives +3) aiming for 20 dex at the end at the least (+2 tome and +6 item)

atm its just gear and raising ac that confuses me, have 31 at lvl 6

[elraido]

Looks like Full Plate of the Defender will give you your highest AC then. One thing to think about though, is to make a set of DT and see what enhancements you get on it. Some of the Enhancements might make it more worth your while though.

[Seosamh]

I recommend going with the Dragon Touched Armor.

Just because, IMHO: 3 upgrade spots > > 2 extra max dex bonus

[elraido]

got 13 dex atm 12 base + 1 dex tome unbuffed, only got a dex +1 item atm (still after the 1 from tangleroot that gives +3) aiming for 20 dex at the end at the least (+2 tome and +6 item)

atm its just gear and raising ac that confuses me, have 31 at lvl 6

How so in that it confuses you?

[elraido]

I recommend going with the Dragon Touched Armor.

Just because, IMHO: 3 upgrade spots > > 2 extra max dex bonus

That is debateable as to what he gets in those slots since it is completely random as to what you do get. Right now on my armor, almost everything I have is redundant and worthless.

[manumase]

just new to the game, but in all rpgs have always played the toon that gets hit about for the others,

i just am wondering aboout gathering ac, is it all gear or can i do something to do about it with feats or enhancements?

[elraido]

just new to the game, but in all rpgs have always played the toon that gets hit about for the others,

i just am wondering aboout gathering ac, is it all gear or can i do something to do about it with feats or enhancements?

It is mostly about gear and some enhancements. Dodge is a feat that grants +1 to ac but you need a certain dex score. The Combat expertise feat can add +5 to to ac but it takes away from your to hit and you need BASE int of 13 to take it. The enhancements you can take with a paladin to raise AC is Defender of Siberys and Bulward of Good and Paladin AC Boost...but with that one is only a 20 second burst.

[Seosamh]

That is debateable as to what he gets in those slots since it is completely random as to what you do get. Right now on my armor, almost everything I have is redundant and worthless.

If you grind it, it's not really debatable, other than in the way that anything is debatable.

[manumase]

current base stats (without items or anything else, just base and tomes) atm are
Str 16
Dex 13 (+1 tome)
Con 14
Int 13 (+1 Tome)
Wis 9 (+1 Tome)
Cha 17 (+1 tome)

basically used junts build for just the stats, i wanted the pally to be mine so have only looked at it for that, if other similarities rise then its purely coincidental ^^

[Seosamh]

What race? (Dwarf, or other)

[manumase]

human, value that loh too much from my other pally to penalize it with being a dwarf

[Seosamh]

The best AC Fullplate you can get, as far as I know, is the Epic Tourney Armor

[manumase]

looks good on paper but it means i gotta find stuff like heavy fortification on another slot, was hoping to get rid of the minos, coz it looks good on paper but i bet i could find better helmets out there, dt armor can both have heavy fort and 2 more upgrades, full plate of the defenders has that, a +2 to hit and a Protection +4 so thats why i was asking between them, dodge bonus will be from my chattering ring, its thinking what would be the better item to help free up other slots for other stuff

[elraido]

looks good on paper but it means i gotta find stuff like heavy fortification on another slot, was hoping to get rid of the minos, coz it looks good on paper but i bet i could find better helmets out there, dt armor can both have heavy fort and 2 more upgrades, full plate of the defenders has that, a +2 to hit and a Protection +4 so thats why i was asking between them, dodge bonus will be from my chattering ring, its thinking what would be the better item to help free up other slots for other stuff

You can get heavy fort and protection 5 on a dual shard earth II greensteel item. I biffed it when I made mine and it was only a single shard...doh!!!!

[manumase]

think i may go for DT, yeh i may get more armor class outta defenders full plate but i get versatility with the dt armor and for 1 or 2 more ac it just isnt worth giving it up,

[PopeJual]

That is debateable as to what he gets in those slots since it is completely random as to what you do get. Right now on my armor, almost everything I have is redundant and worthless.

I just picked up -10% arcane spell failure on my Paladin's DT armor, so I can vouch for useless.

I will say that some of the useless stuff is still quite awesome. Sundering Ooze guard for the surprise Black Pudding pets is quite awesome even though the pets are not actually that useful.

[lord_of_rage]

The best AC Fullplate you can get, as far as I know, is the Epic Tourney Armor

Great now I need to start running the vons again doh.

[Seelowe]

if you feel like clicking: http://ddowiki.com/index.php?title=Dragontouched_Armor&

if you don't feel like clicking:
Possible Eldritch Rune Properties

* 20% Striding
* 25% Striding
* Greater Resists
* Exceptional Stat Skills +3
* Heavy Fortification
* Resistance +5
* Improved False Life
* Greater False Life
* Fearsome
* Feather falling
* Deathblock
* Lionheart (procs Remove Fear)
* Healing Amplification 10%
* Incite 10% (added Module 9)

[edit] Possible Tempest Rune Properties

* Stat +6
* Exceptional Stat +1
* Protection +5
* Corrosive Salt Guard
* Crushing Wave Guard
* Magma Surge Guard
* True Seeing
* Spell Resistance (22)
* Healing Amplification 20%
* Incite 15% (added Module 9)
* Wizardry VI
* Efficient Metamagic - Empower Healing II
* Spell Penetration VIII S
* Lesser Arcane Sigil (-5% ASF, added Module 9)

[edit] Possible Sovereign Rune Properties

* Glacial Assault (see note 1, below)
* Levik's Defender
* Lorrik's Champion
* Tharne's Wrath

* Dodge bonus +3 (see note 2, below)
* Natural armor +4
* Heightened Awareness 4 (+4 insight AC)

* Air Guard
* Disintegration Guard
* Earthen Guard (procs Stoneskin, caster level 7)
* Earthgrab Guard
* Enervation Guard
* Freezing Ice Guard
* Melodic Guard (chance to dance opponent)
* Sundering Ooze Guard
* Radiance Guard

* Crippling (applies to your melee weapon attack)
* Destruction (applies to your melee weapon attack)
* Smiting (applies to your melee weapon attack)
* Incite 20% (added Module 9)

* Greater Elemental Energy (+20 HP)
* Greater Elemental Spell Power (+100 SP)
* Arcane Sigil (-10% ASF, added Module 9)

* Greater Combustion VII
* Superior Combustion VII
* Devotion VIII
* Glaciation VIII
* Improved Glaciation VIII
* Resonance VIII R
* Improved Resonance VIII
* Greater Potency VII
* Potency VIII
* Greater Spell Penetration VIII

now, obviously if you decide to grind the runes out, the properties are pretty much awesome. the fact that you didn't get what you wanted on your first try definitely doesn't make the armor itself useless