Put scroll drops in DQ2 Epic

[bobbryan2]

I've been grinding for girds and firestorm greaves for a looong time now and don't have many of either. Increase their drop rates too, please. I'm tired of ransacking several toons every week to maybe get 1 item.

You all are ridiculous. It's epic becuase collecting the items is supposed to be a challenge. Now, you can argue all day that grind =/= challenge, but I disagree. Taken directly from dictionary.com "something that by its nature or character serves as a call to battle, contest, special effort, etc" This fits the bill for epic content. It may not be resource intensive, on-the-edge-of-your-seat combat, but there is a very real chance of dying (which Turbine needs to pump up from a minor annoyance to a real hinderance.)

/Not Signed.

Please give your input when you've ran epic. We'll wait.

There is no legitimate reason to not put epic scrolls inside of an epic quest. Your /not signing is utterly ridiculous to read. You want epic scrolls to only be put in 90% of the quests they should be in?

[Schwarzie]

The thing I see the issue with is the complaint that no one runs epic dessert quests so they NEED to drop in DQ2. that sounds like someone asking for it to be easier to me.
" because the scrolls don't exists and never will as no one ever runs Desert epic quests.. "

Why not run more dessert epic quests? Cause it takes more than 10-15 minutes to run?

Some people already pointed it out in this Thread. Several others, I among them, pointed this out in several other Threads also.

Less Grind is NOT easy Button. Casual Setting is Easy Button. Buying Mana Pots in the DDO Shop is Easy Button.

Less Grind is simply a reduction of repetition. A Higher droprate for some Item doesnt make anything EASYER, it simply reduces the necessary repetition.

If you still havent understood this difference PM, then i try to explain this further.

You all are ridiculous. It's epic becuase collecting the items is supposed to be a challenge. Now, you can argue all day that grind =/= challenge, but I disagree. Taken directly from dictionary.com "something that by its nature or character serves as a call to battle, contest, special effort, etc" This fits the bill for epic content. It may not be resource intensive, on-the-edge-of-your-seat combat, but there is a very real chance of dying (which Turbine needs to pump up from a minor annoyance to a real hinderance.)

Do you see for yourself how you contradict yourself in your post or do i have to point it out?

[Natulyre]

I've yet to have difficulty getting scrolls, I get 1-5 per dungeon runs and my large ingredient bag is full of them. Pretty sure you can get scrolls from dq2 epic by killing the gnolls and the boss :>

[SableShadow]

Pretty sure you can get scrolls from dq2 epic by killing the gnolls

How's your jump?

[bobbryan2]

I've yet to have difficulty getting scrolls, I get 1-5 per dungeon runs and my large ingredient bag is full of them. Pretty sure you can get scrolls from dq2 epic by killing the gnolls and the boss :>

Screenshot please.

[SableShadow]

Screenshot please.

He solos wizking on argo pretty regularly. So, yeah, I doubt he's having an issue with scrolls...or anything else for that matter.

[Shade]

He solos wizking on argo pretty regularly. So, yeah, I doubt he's having an issue with scrolls...or anything else for that matter.

Don't matter if you solo them 24/7...

It's all about luck. Without insane luck you get nothing in these quests.

I've completed some 100+ epic desert quests and the raid about 50 times, and spent an insane amount of time not completing them but grinding mobs for scrolls.. Completed only 8 epic items (most of which I had to trade for the related items).. And only of those 3 I consider very useful.
In 1/10th the amount of work doing VoNs vs Desert stuff, I could have completed the same amount of items. Is that the intention? Perhaps, thats not the topic.

In my huge bag I have over 120 different epic seals/shards/scrolls (would have closer to 150 count ones i've used/sold).. And none are matching combos.. There's just such a huge variety that getting the right ones is requires extreme luck.

And im not asking for it to be easier.. Just for the criteria of what you need to grind to be expanded to include DQ2.

It does not drop scrolls and it should. That's all this thread is about. Nothing more.

[bobbryan2]

He solos wizking on argo pretty regularly. So, yeah, I doubt he's having an issue with scrolls...or anything else for that matter.

I meant a screenshot of him picking up a scroll from a gnoll or marilith in DQ2.

[SableShadow]

I meant a screenshot of him picking up a scroll from a gnoll or marilith in DQ2.

Gnoll I doubt...hence the "jump" comment.

DQ2...dunno. Think I've seen one in there, but, y'know, all this **** seems to blend together after a while.... :P

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Take a breath. My first post, same experience as you, plus full agreement.

Later post...wondering if they didn't tweak up the drop rate in the non-raids a bit. Just seems like more are dropping...dunno if my luck has changed or if they've actually made yet another stealth tweak.

Then again, yesterday a couple buddies of mine killed 1100 trogs for a half-dozen scrolls, all junk. So I dunno if adding scroll drops, by itself, to DQ2 is going to do much at all. I'm all in favor of it, tho.

*shrug*

[bobbryan2]

Personally, I think the drop rate for epics should be based on the number of items.

So you have a .1% chance of a given item dropping, regardless of how many there are. That would mean there may be a 1.5% drop rate in epic vons, but a 3.5% drop rate in epic desert. Would just make sense that you could find the scroll you're looking for every 1000 kills or so.

[Gunga]

Don't matter if you solo them 24/7...

It's all about luck.

Yep.

Spent 7+ hours running epic until Divs was on timer for EVERY EPIC QUEST (VONS AND DESERT).

Thousands of kills.

125+ mana pots.

4 Scrolls. 4 USELESS scrolls.

****'* broke.

[SableShadow]

Yep.

Spent 7+ hours running epic until Divs was on timer for EVERY EPIC QUEST (VONS AND DESERT).

Thousands of kills.

125+ mana pots.

4 Scrolls. 4 USELESS scrolls.

****'* broke.

This is probably not the time to mention I got 2 +4 tomes within the span of a week, is it?

Personally, I think the drop rate for epics should be based on the number of items.

Stop making sense, **** you!

[Gunga]

This is probably not the time to mention I got 2 +4 tomes within the span of a week, is it?

You already knew I hated you, right?

Grats. I got my tomes though. I need the stupid scrolls.

[SableShadow]

You already knew I hated you, right? Grats.

Thanks!

I got my tomes though. I need the stupid scrolls.

I could use some shards, too...I feel yah, seems like the grind to end all grinds, particularly in the desert.

I got lots of seals, a fair number of shards, lots of scrolls (mostly junk, a few good ones), but....yeah, only a couple matches, nothing particularly best spec.