Gimped - 12wizard\6ranger\2monk

[blessedangel]

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Undefeated 
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Female
(2 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 12 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 284
Spell Points: 803 
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 17
Will: 12

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             10                 12                   12
Dexterity            16                 18                   20
Constitution         16                 18                   20
Intelligence         16                 23                   26
Wisdom                6                  8                    9
Charisma              6                  6                    6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               7                 27                   27
Bluff                -2                 -2                   -2
Concentration         7                 28                   28
Diplomacy             2                  5                    5
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                 -2                   -2
Heal                 -2                 -1                   -1
Hide                  3                 12                   12
Intimidate           -2                 -2                   -2
Jump                  4                 12                   14
Listen               -2                 -1                    0
Move Silently         7                 28                   30
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                3                 14                   14
Search                3                 15                   17
Spot                  2                 20                   22
Swim                  0                  2                    2
Tumble                7                 10                   10
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Resistances


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Chaotic Outsider


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot


Level 9 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Scroll
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training


Level 10 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 13 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Enlarge Spell


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1.5)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Whirlwind Attack


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw


Level 19 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Way of the Faithful Hound I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Jump I
Enhancement: Ranger Jump II
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently I
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently II
Enhancement: Ranger Search I
Enhancement: Ranger Search II
Enhancement: Ranger Spot I
Enhancement: Ranger Spot II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend III

The plan for the build is to always have displacement,blur running. This build would exploit the invisibility spell to the max. I am currently looking for a way that i can boost my charm monster DC up as far as it can go, but honestly can't see it going above 35-40.

However I think that with a little work and a lot of grinding for gear, this may actually fair not to bad as a solo build end game. Please suggest any changes that don't require changing class level arrangements. Thank you.

[Dyer]

I'm normally not one to criticize much, but here, I feel I can make an exception. Change the color of your font, if you want some constructive comments on your build! Now, all your going to get is messages like mine, possibly a tad less polite...

[captain1z]

I'm not sure if you are asking a question or making a statement.


But a few things just at a glance:


- 2 monk levels with no wisdom means u took it for evasion and/or the 2 feats but not the bonus AC

- your feats selected whirlwind, quickdraw are of little value that I can see. Stunning blow only works with high str which you dont have so it will fail more often than not.

you would do better with 2 monk or 2 rogue with high str, wis, int and con and picking up insightful reflexes and taking 18 levels of wiz. I know u said no changes in class but its just an example.

My vision may be limited but I dont see where u r going. Needs tweaking as Im sure is to follow.

[blessedangel]

Perhaps I jumped into this build to quickly. It defiantly needs a few tweaks.

[gavagai]

Perhaps I jumped into this build to quickly. It defiantly needs a few tweaks.

It looks like you're not quite sure what your focus will be on this build. There's the sacrifice of 6 levels of Wiz for 6 levels of ranger, but with only 10 STR you won't be hitting hard. The combat feats (Quick Draw, Whirlwind) are not great picks, given how few feats you have. And Combat Expertise seems wasted where you cannot take advantage of any monk AC.

Here's my two cents:

With only 12 levels of Wizard and a starting Int of 16, it will take HUGE efforts just to make your CC's mediocre. But there's much to be done with the build once you put aside the offensive casting.

If you want to focus on offensive melee, drop INT to at least 14 or 12, and put those points into STR. Say goodbye to charming/CC and focus on casting buffs and direct damage spells like firewall. Drop Dex to 15 (since you already plan on a +2 Dex tome for GTWF) and put those points into STR. I'd also put level-up points into STR, since points in Int are not helping you very much. The build could look like this:

STR 15
Dex 15
Con 16
Int  14
Wis   6
Cha   6

The more "advanced" versions I've seen on the forums drop Int to 10 or 11 and pump either STR (for offense) or Wis (for saves/monk AC). Obviously that route focuses on self-healing and buffing, and does it perfectly well. But that's so gear intensive I'll drop it as an option.

In addition to the Tempest feats and Toughness, you'll want these offensive feats:
Improved Crit [Until you get GS Mins]
GTWF [Taking Ranger 6 is rather pointless without this]
Power Attack [not needed until you have plenty of Divine Power clickies]
That leaves you two more feats to play with.

For the Wiz feats: as a melee caster Quicken and Maximize are probably your best metas for self-reconstruction. Extend is nice for Haste and Displacement. I don't think Reconstruct spells are "healing," so I think Empower Healing isn't a great choice. Enlarge isn't going to help you much, since your casting will already be pretty weak and (hopefully) your whirling steel will be your offense.

Now all of that assumes you took Ranger and Monk for more offensive might. If you want a high AC build (since you pump Dex and have CE), I think you should drop the Wiz levels and consider a non-WF cleric/FvS multiclass. With Wisdom and Dex so costly to boost on a Warforged, I can't see a way to achieve high AC with this class split without severely gimping both your melee DPS and casting. But maybe someone else has better ideas on that front!

Have fun

[Myrddinman]

Well I'm going to do what you asked us not to do, and suggest class changes...but with advice from experience

I started with exactly the same class/level/race breakdown as you, but realized around level 10/12, that as far as a solo build, I was in trouble. With GR upcoming (hopefully) I will be respecting to 7Wiz/11Ranger/2Fighter. Here's a breakdown of my some of my reasoning:

• I initially went DEX based (with Weapon Fin) for the AC (Monk bonus), but realized that it was too stat intensive for a WF (still only 28-point build) and my AC would not be viable to say the least. Plus, I initially only wanted Wiz for buffs and self-repair/Reconstruct. But after realizing that I would be debuffed regularly, I discovered that I needed relatively high DPS to survive solo.
• I decided to forgo AC and did a LR to re-allocate my stat points into STR, and invested in Power Attack; this has worked-out very well.
• 7 Wizard gets me: Repair Critical, Stoneskin, Haste, Displacement and Blur, INT +2, Force Manipulation III (30%), Empower and Extend.
• 11 Ranger gets me: Tempest I, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, decent ranged feats (bonus for solo), 2 Favored Enemies, Evasion, Ram's Might and Barkskin
• 2 Fighter gets me: 2 bonus feats, STR+1, Haste Boost, Attack Boost, Fighter Toughness (+10 HPs) and more base HPs than Monk

So, just speaking for me and what I've learned. Enjoy!

[ddoer]

roll a pure caster or melee to learn about the game mechanic before trying to invent a multi-class build. Your build may or may not work, but i'm pretty sure you don't have the resource and skills to get it work.

[Phidius]

...Here's my two cents:...

+1 - I'd value it higher than 2 cents

roll a pure caster or melee to learn about the game mechanic before trying to invent a multi-class build. Your build may or may not work, but i'm pretty sure you don't have the resource and skills to get it work.

+1 as well... good advice