THF KoTc first build need input plzz

[slymmy1145]

OK I am trying for a WF solo/part time party build
.And its my first attempt at any build so any advice will help


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waradin
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 362
Spell Points: 295

BAB: 20/20/25/3030
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 11
Will: 11

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 18 25 25
Dexterity 8 10 10
Constitution 14 16 17
Intelligence 8 10 10
Wisdom 8 10 10
Charisma 14 16 17

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 1 11 6
Bluff 3 3 3
Concentration 3 3 3
Diplomacy 3 3 3
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 3 3 3
Heal 0 0 0
Hide 0 0 -5
Intimidate 3 3 3
Jump 5 7 2
Listen 0 0 0
Move Silently 0 0 -5
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 0 0 0
Search 0 0 0
Spot 0 0 0
Swim 5 7 -3
Tumble n/a n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 4 13 13

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Resistances

Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill:

[Ninetoes]

Ok, One major point: You can't use tomes at lvl 1 anymore. You'll have to wait unti llvl 3 (unless you have a stack of old tomes sitting around somewhere) to use +1 tomes, and lvl 7 to use +2 tomes.

On my WF KotC, I actually went

16
8
14
8
8
16

When I asked about my stat spread, I initially had something just like yours. Compelling arguments were made by people who's opinions I respect for maxing CHA over STR, For a Solo/Short Man build. The extra points from charisma benefits my LOH enough to make it more than worthwhile, as well as increasing saves and IIRC, smite damage as well. I got him to level 5 last night, and I do not regret shorting the STR for CHA in ANY way.

Someone correct me if I'm off base, but I don't think you can hit divine might IV with a starting CHA of 14, without dumping tomes and all your level ups into it.

[slymmy1145]

Ok, One major point: You can't use tomes at lvl 1 anymore. You'll have to wait unti llvl 3 (unless you have a stack of old tomes sitting around somewhere) to use +1 tomes, and lvl 7 to use +2 tomes.

On my WF KotC, I actually went

16
8
14
8
8
16

When I asked about my stat spread, I initially had something just like yours. Compelling arguments were made by people who's opinions I respect for maxing CHA over STR, For a Solo/Short Man build. The extra points from charisma benefits my LOH enough to make it more than worthwhile, as well as increasing saves and IIRC, smite damage as well. I got him to level 5 last night, and I do not regret shorting the STR for CHA in ANY way.

Someone correct me if I'm off base, but I don't think you can hit divine might IV with a starting CHA of 14, without dumping tomes and all your level ups into it.

Sorry first time useing planner i have a plus 2 to all tome i will use at 3 and will look at changeing stats thaks for advice ok edit with new stats
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waradin
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 266

BAB: 20/20/25/3030
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 10
Will: 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 21
Dexterity 8 8
Constitution 14 15
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 16 17

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 0 4.5
Bluff 3 3
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy 3 3
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 3
Heal -1 -1
Hide -1 -6
Intimidate 3 3
Jump 3 0
Listen -1 -1
Move Silently -1 -6
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot -1 -1
Swim 3 -5
Tumble n/a -5.5
Use Magic Device 4 12.5

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body

Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Paladin)

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 7 (Paladin)

Level 8 (Paladin)

Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 10 (Paladin)

Level 11 (Paladin)

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 13 (Paladin)

Level 14 (Paladin)

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 16 (Paladin)

Level 17 (Paladin)

Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 19 (Paladin)

Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladesworn Transformation
Enhancement: Follower of the Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III
Enhanceement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion IV
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar III
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I

[Ninetoes]

Sorry first time useing planner i have a plus 2 to all tome i will use at 3 and will look at changeing stats thaks for advice

You'll need to use that at lvl 7, not 3. +1 tomes can be used at 3, +2 at 7 (unless there's an older version of the +2 to All tome I don't know about. Double check it)

The stats are subjective, they can be modified to taste. Frankly, Divine Might 4 seems like a less-than-optimal investment for a 2 handed build, but I would want the maxed charisma for the other reasons stated.

Regardless, this is a blast to play. Not to mention, WF look awesome with adamantine body

If you have a higher level character, I highly reccomend running it through delera's and getting a Carnifex for when the WF hits lvl 4. You won't regret it.

[Ninetoes]

Ok, you can't take a feat at lvl 2 because you're a paladin.

Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting won't work for you.

[slymmy1145]

Ok, you can't take a feat at lvl 2 because you're a paladin.

Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting won't work for you.

OK round 2
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waradin
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(1 Fighter / 18 Paladin / 1 Monk)
Hit Points: 362
Spell Points: 238

BAB: 19/19/24/2929
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 12
Will: 12

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 21
Dexterity 8 8
Constitution 14 15
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 16 17

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 0 1
Bluff 3 3
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy 3 3
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 3
Heal -1 -1
Hide -1 -6
Intimidate 3 3
Jump 3 0
Listen -1 -1
Move Silently -1 -6
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot -1 -1
Swim 3 -5
Tumble n/a -5.5
Use Magic Device 4 9.5

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body

Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting

Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Paladin)

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 7 (Paladin)

Level 8 (Paladin)

Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 10 (Paladin)

Level 11 (Paladin)

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 13 (Paladin)

Level 14 (Paladin)

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 16 (Paladin)

Level 17 (Paladin)

Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 19 (Paladin)

Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladesworn Transformation
Enhancement: Follower of the Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion IV
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar III
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I


Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion IV
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar III
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I

[Ninetoes]

I really advise against that class split you're doing it for the feats, which I get, but it's going to screw you in the end. Lets do this.

What are you TRYING to do with this build, and what do you want it to accomplish?

[FuzzyDuck81]

With the low WIS & adamantine body, the monk level is completely useless (dont have a positive WIS modifier to gain AC bonus from it & it doesnt work while armoured anyway - the body feats count as armour) - get a 2nd fighter level instead, taking PA as the fighter feat & toughness as the regular level 3 feat.. this will also allow you to get an extra +1 STR via the fighter enhancement, and pick up the fighter haste boost too for bursts of increased attack speed.
Overall though, unless you're taking the fighter levels to allow you to get high intimidate, a pure paladin would probably be a better bet, since the capstone enhancement is very powerful