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    Community Member Marr0w1's Avatar
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    Default 36pt Support/Dps Build

    Ok, I know this thing has been done before, but I like to try and cobble together my own builds. Past Lives give extra sp and +1 to attack rolls, as well as 36pts to play with. The general idea of this is decent survivability/dps through gear and sneak attack, with the option of repeaters if I need to get out of the fray and start casting. The support focus is on bard songs/heroic companion/haste for increasing the general dps of the party, with some spells/heals/umd/Trapsmithing for second-line support.

    So as always, any input is much appreciated, I'm flexible on pretty much anything (besides the repeater feat I think).. and I'll update this to reflect any more tomes (especially +3/+4) I pull in the meantime.


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    Arcaea Rimehart
    Level 20 True Neutral Halfling Female
    (2 Fighter \ 3 Rogue \ 15 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 280
    Spell Points: 396 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    24
    Dexterity            16                    18
    Constitution         16                    18
    Intelligence         12                    14
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               4                     5
    Bluff                -1                     1
    Concentration         4                     4
    Diplomacy            -1                    -1
    Disable Device        6                    22
    Haggle                3                    22
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  8                    23
    Intimidate           -1                    -1
    Jump                  8                    20
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         8                    14
    Open Lock             8                    11
    Perform              n/a                   22
    Repair                2                     2
    Search                6                    22
    Spot                 -1                    -1
    Swim                  4                     7
    Tumble                8                    28
    Use Magic Device      3                    21
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Heavy Crossbow
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
    Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion II
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion III
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion IV
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery III
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Rapid Reload
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
    Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Bard Haggle I
    Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
    Enhancement: Bard Perform I
    Enhancement: Rogue Search I
    Enhancement: Bard Tumble I
    Enhancement: Bard Tumble II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery IV
    EDIT:
    Footnote of gear I have collected for this build, suggestions welcome.
    Black Dragonhide
    Quiver Of Alacrity
    GS Repeater (WIP)
    Wretched Twilight
    Ravager Set
    Tharnes Bracers
    Dreamspitter
    Treason x2
    Bard's Cloak
    Minos
    Ring Of Lies
    Last edited by Marr0w1; 03-05-2010 at 07:22 PM.

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    Hey Arc, Cynfull here.

    Looks good, altho I wonder if the benefits of Bard 16 over Rogue 3 would be better. You lose 1d6 sneak attack but gain +1 1st, +1 5th and +2 6th lvl spell slots (Otto's Irresistable).

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    Quote Originally Posted by olsoned View Post
    Hey Arc, Cynfull here.

    Looks good, altho I wonder if the benefits of Bard 16 over Rogue 3 would be better. You lose 1d6 sneak attack but gain +1 1st, +1 5th and +2 6th lvl spell slots (Otto's Irresistable).

    A Warchanter already has all the low-level spells he has any use for at level 15.

    The only relevant gain of the 16th bard levelis Ottos Irresistable Dance, which can be usefull against monsters without SR in certain situations. Mostly epic VONs. In other places monsters die fast enough to not need it, or simply have SR you wont beat without being completly specced for it.

    While the 3rd Rogue gives you +1d6 damage for most situations, as well as easing the skill requirements for the rougish side.



    The tradeoff is basically irresistable dance vs. +1d6 sneak atatck and better skills.
    Erzskalde (Warchanter) / Erzassassin (just passing through - ignore me) / Erzsoldat (waiting for TR-time) / Erzschmied (ranged Artificer)

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    3rd lvl rog over 16 bard also gives you 1 more bab, higher blocking dr and better to hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marr0w1 View Post
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    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    
    You can't use +2 tomes at level 1.
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    Cyn: Thanks for checking this over.

    Also, since when have +2 tomes had a ML?

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    Hijacking my own thread.
    Repeater is now free to be changed. Weapons will be picks and situationally weighted/tenderisers.
    Ignore uneven stats, and low con.. char-generator wouldnt let me use 36 point builds, which this will be.
    Alternate build without rogue splash to follow

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    Arcaea Rimehart
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
    (2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 234
    Spell Points: 425 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting            Ending          
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)        
    Strength             18                 24            
    Dexterity            15                 17            
    Constitution         11                 13            
    Intelligence         13                 15            
    Wisdom                8                 10            
    Charisma              8                 10            
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
    
                      Starting            Ending          
                     Base Skills        Base Skills       
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)        
    Balance               7                  7            
    Bluff                 0                  0            
    Concentration         1                  1            
    Diplomacy             0                  0            
    Disable Device        6                 26            
    Haggle                4                 24            
    Heal                  0                  0            
    Hide                  3                  3            
    Intimidate            0                  0            
    Jump                  9                 30            
    Listen                0                  0            
    Move Silently         3                  3            
    Open Lock             7                  7            
    Perform               n/a               23            
    Repair                2                  2            
    Search                6                 21            
    Spot                  4                  4            
    Swim                  9                 15            
    Tumble                7                 24            
    Use Magic Device      4                 24            
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (1): Hypnotism
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Focusing Chant
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Spell (2): Heroism
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (2): Rage
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Spell (2): Invisibility
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Spell (3): Good Hope
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Spell (3): Haste
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Heavy Crossbow
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
    Spell (4): Dimension Door
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    Spell (5): Greater Heroism
    Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
    Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic
    Spell (6): Otto's Irresistable Dance
    Spell (6): Heroes Feast

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