Drow TWF FvS?

[SpoonyJank]

So I'm F2P since I'm principally against paying for anything ever and I've unlocked drow about a kajillion times and rolled a lot of characters that drow are well suited to (rogue, wiz, sorc, bard) but I've never unlocked a 32-pt build on any server because I keep re-rolling and dont have a million character slots. I was hoping to make something better at soloing. Bard buffs don't impress me as much as a huge mana pool for some reason. Every time I create a group only idiots seem to join and I wouldn't mind being Mr. Popular heal-bot guy so decent groups would let me join or maybe even invite me and I wouldn't have to scan the 5 or 6 available groups full of people that don't know what they're doing. It seems like any FvS can be healbot if they avoid agro and just simply focus on healing, but then they also have the option of kicking some arse whether its nukes or melee, thus they can solo and be Mr. Popular as well.

I was trying to create something that actually takes advantage of the drow ability increases, which aren't exactly perfectly suited to the FvS; far from it really. I was thinking a TWF melee build that could also be a heal-bot. I could use increased INT and CHA to focus some on diplomacy to shed some agro to start healing in a clutch situation and maybe get some UMD. I'm not sure where I should even start though since I've never even made a FvS. The whole religion thing and the class feats or abilities or whatever are still a mystery to me. I haven't even rolled a cleric before. Mostly because it sounds incredibly boring. I'm pretty good at targeting party members and having a million quickbars however.

anyways, even the ability points are wracking my mind. I'm not very enthused about over-investing in anything so I probably wont put anything over 16. Wisdom will clearly be gimped but I'm not sure how much I can gimp it and still cast certain spells and if some offensive spells don't have DC's. Will "dispelling-type" spells have wisdom affected DC's?

anyways, what I'm working with stat-wise is

STR 14
DEX 16
CON 14
INT 14
WIS 8
CHA 12

I'd be going with weapon finesse and TWF feats mostly

... well I just played with the character generator for like an hour trying to make a rogue splash (or a lot more than splash) because those look almost exactly like rogue stats, but I think I should make it pure FvS to be a nice stereo-typical heal-bot and because i dont have monk unlocked ... the wisdom is gimp anyways. Do I need more wisdom even if I never cast DC spells or possibly just for spell availability? Could there be any justification for putting CON down to 12? I'm REALLY used to being squishy. I didn't roll the pure FvS yet so I don't know if higher INT or CHA will ultimately give me the higher diplomacy and UMD with the number of skills I want (a lot). If I can get INT or CHA to 16 and have a reason then I can almost justify not using a 32-point elf build.

I'll try to put up an actual build once I'm awake some day. The actual ability points bug me though because it sounds like I'm half-way to "self-gimped".

Edit: The logic behind it is to poke some mob with a rapier and draw his agro as opposed to drawing 5 mobs agro by nuking and being able to diplo him away if i have to heal and I won't have to sit idle waiting for someone to take damage.

[SpoonyJank]

uggh, should have researched, the only diety whose bonus stacks with racial bonus is for shortswords, their abilities include invisibility every 10 minutes, which could easily come from a clicky at worst, its a lvl 2 arcane spell FFS. and they can summon a gimp scorpion... great

[Khayvan]

I've been fooling around with a similar character. At low levels it's great. Haven't got her to high levels so can't really say anything about that...

I use shortwords, TWF. I tanked WIS like that and I'm going to stay away from DC spells, except Blade Barrier. The focus is on healing, buffing and melee. Later on, even if melee falls behind, a FvS can always be a good enough healer to find a spot in groups. It's easy to fit in the healing enhancements.

For mine I'm going to take a couple levels of fighter for the extra feats, which I believe will be more valuable than the capstone. If you wanted evasion you could take 2 levels of rogue (make sure to take rogue at 1st level) whcih would also let you have UMD as a class skill.

[Consumer]

I would change the stats.

The dex can be dropped to 15 and a tome used to qualify for the higher TWF feats. You will also have to include metamagic feats will will be harder to do on a pure FvS.

Diplomacy wont be to helpful when your damage will be lower than most normal dps builds. If you do take agro from a bunch of mobs you have lots of sp to heal coupled with decent HP and you can just wait a couple seconds till a higher dps build takes agro. You can drop int by two points now or invest in UMD, balance, jump and concentration.

As for con you can drop it to 12 as FvS will normally take the toughness feat but as your main focus wont be offensive casting, you may aswell keep points invested in it.

More Str for a melee = more damage and to hit which is always welcome.

If youve not played a FvS before and want a heal bot it will be easier to follow Impaqt's evoker build, it can't TWF but can still debuff mobs with melee. Hopefully someone more experienced than me will give you input but thats my advice.

There are also several drow builds already on the FvS forum, they will be a couple pages back but should be easy to spot.

[Matuse]

If you're against paying for anything, and you've never gotten the favor for a 32 point build, how exactly are you going to make a FvS?

[Consumer]

I probably should have read that first sentence, maybe hes saved up enough tp and can actually make use of the replies though.

[SpoonyJank]

by using turbine points from favor. the 32-pt build is a hell of a lot of TP though and seems like a waste with this perfectly fine Drow race sitting around. The classes they are suited to seem a hell of a lot more interesting to play than most simple melee builds anyways. I pretty much decided against a melee build because I played a TWF rogue and it was just too awesomely DPS against crit-able mobs to ever want to switch to FvS partially geared for DPS. The thought of shortswords and vulkoorim perks turned me off... I think I'll do a pure FvS caster after all this worthless contemplation.

abilities like this

STR 8
DEX 10
CON 12
INT 16
WIS 16
CHA 16

Don't really see why the 6 points spent on maxing WIS could amount to more than a 5% difference on landing a spell (after spell penetration) and it doesn't really seem justified. That and I like having skill points... a lot. Think I might go with vulkoorim since I'm drow and maybe someday it will get ungimped since drow arent awesomely suited to FvS in the first place... but then I probably won't go with that faith because I'm not incredibly interested in self gimping and this game doesn't seem like it fixes that kind of thing very often. The invis might be nice with only 12 con though. I'm used to playing a CC/buffing wiz and I don't imagine I'll be nuking a whole lot as it always seems to draw a bit too much agro, especially with only 12 con. I'll probably still get the spell pen feats though and maybe evocation if it seems like it will work out with BB after all. I guess I'll be sacrificing a lot of solo ability without melee, but oh well. I'll probably be a better team player. The quests will go by faster. I always wished soloing would give more XP. I'll still be mr. popular though, which was one of my initial goals.

Are there racial WIS enhancements for any other races that make drow exceptionally gimp at spell DC's in comparison? basically I'm totally undecided on what would be an optimum drow FvS in terms of gaming paradigms like having a role (or two) to play.

You know the problem I have with the character generator? it shows a million enhancements you can't get in a tiny tiny window and it really makes it a pain to make those choices when you haven't even rolled the class before.

[Consumer]

If your going pure caster dont use drow. It will be more beneficial to just follow http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199266 and to drop the strength for a 28pt build.

I'd advise spending your saved tp on adventure packs and using your highest level character to unlock 32pt builds.

[Khayvan]

Wow, Jank, your posts give the impression that you don't really want to play this character at all but somehow feel like you have to.

If you plan on doing a lot of healing, don't discount the power of an invisible healer.

Humans can get a +1 enhancement to WIS, no other race gets any.

Which skills are you planning on taking to need such a high INT?

Your CHA is way too high, the extra SP you get from it is negligible. I'd suggest moving at least 2 pts from CHA to STR so you can carry more and at least melee early without penalties.

[EAB]

If you want your FVS to be melee then you need the 16 STR and lower WIZ. You need to decide if you want to focus on crowd controll and spell damage, or melee damage and healing.