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    Default 100 Purple coins - results

    I turned 100 purple coins, and 200 blue coins - results below. I know, 100 "clicks" isnt enough to quessing drop rate, but it gives a clue, what to expect. And I was really lucky, or Icy burst isnt more rare then others at all.

    100 purple (recipe+trash+mote every turn)
    Recipes (list here http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=228641 )
    #1 xxxx 4
    #2 xxxxxx 6
    #3 xxxxx 5
    #4 xxxx 4
    #5 xxxxxxx 7
    #6 xxxx 4
    #7 xxx 3
    #8 xxxx 4
    #9 xxxxxxx 7
    #10 x 1
    #11 x 1
    #12 xxxxxx 5
    #13 xxxxxx 6
    #14 xxxxxx 6
    #15 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 16
    #16 xxxxxx 6
    #17 xxxx 4
    #18 xxxx 4
    #19 xxx 3
    #20 xxxx 4
    ___100

    2127 Motes

    Trash
    Potion of Chill Shield xxxxxxxxx
    Potion of Frostbite xxxxxxx
    Potion of Featherfall xxxxx
    Potion of Superior Freeze V xxxxxxxxx
    Potion of Protection from fire xxxxxxxx
    Potion of Resist Fire xxxxxx
    Potion of Jumping xxxxxxxx
    Potion of Haste xxxxxxxx
    Scroll of Snowball Swarm xxxx
    Scroll of Niacs ray xx
    Scroll of Frost Lance xxxx
    Scroll of Otiluke Freezing Sphere xxx
    Scroll of Polar Ray xxxxx
    Scroll of Cone of Cold xxx
    Scroll of Icestorm xxxxx
    Wand of Ice storm xxx
    Wand of Niacs Ray xxxxx
    Wand of Cone of Cold xx
    Candy Cane xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


    200 blue (recipe or/and mote or/and trash every turn)

    #1 xxxxxxxx 8
    #2 xxxxxxxxxxxxx 13
    #3 xxxxxxxxx 9
    #4 xxxx 4
    #5 -
    #6 xxxxxxx 7
    #7 xxxx 4
    #8 xx 2
    #9 xxxx 4
    #10 xxxx 4
    #11 x 1
    #12 -
    #13 -
    #14 -
    #15 xxxxxxxxxxxx 12
    #16 xxxx 4
    #17 -
    #18 -
    #19 -
    #20 -

    1052 motes

    Trash
    Potion of Chill Shield xxxxx
    Potion of Frostbite xxxxxxx
    Potion of Featherfall x
    Potion of Superior Freeze V xxx
    Potion of Protection from fire xxxx
    Potion of Resist Fire xxxxxx
    Potion of Jumping x
    Potion of Haste xxxx
    Scroll of Snowball Swarm xxxxx
    Scroll of Niacs ray xxxx
    Scroll of Otiluke Freezing Sphere xxxx
    Scroll of Cone of Cold xxx
    Scroll of Icestorm x
    Wand of Niacs Ray xxx
    Candy Cane xxxxx
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    Those results are intriguing. Thank you for sharing them.
    Personally, I think you may have beaten the odds a little on Recipe 5, I was assuming it would have about a 5% drop chance.

    What bothers me a little is the fact that Purple coins seems to pull from the whole table, and not just the good stuff. Possibly why people consider them more rare 1 item of a possible 40, as opposed to the blue which only has a possible loot table of 28 items (by your numbers) making it easier to get your hands on Recipe 3 or 4.
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    if you want even more challange, let those 5 help you

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbs99 View Post
    Those results are intriguing. Thank you for sharing them.
    Personally, I think you may have beaten the odds a little on Recipe 5, I was assuming it would have about a 5% drop chance.
    Yeah, was lucky on #5 (even got 2 in row), and that would make sense - 4-5% on every recipe from purple coins, while recipe #15 have highest chance (which is sad, since its 10 snowballs).
    Last edited by Skani; 02-15-2010 at 08:02 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skani View Post
    200 blue (recipe or/and mote or/and trash every turn)

    #1 xxxxxxxx 8
    #2 xxxxxxxxxxxxx 13
    #3 xxxxxxxxx 9
    #4 xxxx 4
    #5 -
    #6 xxxxxxx 7
    #7 xxxx 4
    #8 xx 2
    #9 xxxx 4
    #10 xxxx 4
    #11 x 1
    #12 -
    #13 -
    #14 -
    #15 xxxxxxxxxxxx 12
    #16 xxxx 4
    #17 -
    #18 -
    #19 -
    #20 -

    1052 motes

    Trash
    Potion of Chill Shield xxxxx
    Potion of Frostbite xxxxxxx
    Potion of Featherfall x
    Potion of Superior Freeze V xxx
    Potion of Protection from fire xxxx
    Potion of Resist Fire xxxxxx
    Potion of Jumping x
    Potion of Haste xxxx
    Scroll of Snowball Swarm xxxxx
    Scroll of Niacs ray xxxx
    Scroll of Otiluke Freezing Sphere xxxx
    Scroll of Cone of Cold xxx
    Scroll of Icestorm x
    Wand of Niacs Ray xxx
    Candy Cane xxxxx
    72 Recipes from 100 turn ins of Blues = 28 no recipe rewards. Interesting of itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleTrueheart View Post
    72 Recipes from 100 turn ins of Blues = 28 no recipe rewards. Interesting of itself.

    its actually 72 Recipe's for 200 Blues, giving a 36% chance of getting a recipe


    I was actually thinking, Recipe 8 & 11 look a little low in the results. Makes me wonder if they arn't actually possible with blue rewards, but instead like Festivult, are a "step up" prize. Which would mean 3/200 = 1.5% chance of getting a purple reward which does sound similar to the Festivult numbers. Just food for thought

    Edit. Actually, add Potion of Featherfall, Jumping, and Scroll of Ice storm to that list of possible Step up prizes, based on their low numbers, giving a potential 3% chance. Assuming of course this is how it works.
    Last edited by chubbs99; 02-15-2010 at 10:56 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    if you want a challange, grab 5 strangers, park them at the quest entrance and then solo the quest
    if you want even more challange, let those 5 help you

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    At the other hand, just turned 60 purples, and no #5 at all.
    All about luck...
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    65 Purples, 5 #5s, and some unknown amount of garbage nobody cares about.

    1600 blues, 0 #5s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbs99 View Post
    its actually 72 Recipe's for 200 Blues, giving a 36% chance of getting a recipe
    No.

    He said he turned in 200 blue coins. You have to give 2 coins per turn in. Which = 100 turn ins. Therefore it is 72% rate which is in reality probably 75%.

    I was actually thinking, Recipe 8 & 11 look a little low in the results. Makes me wonder if they arn't actually possible with blue rewards, but instead like Festivult, are a "step up" prize. Which would mean 3/200 = 1.5% chance of getting a purple reward which does sound similar to the Festivult numbers. Just food for thought

    Edit. Actually, add Potion of Featherfall, Jumping, and Scroll of Ice storm to that list of possible Step up prizes, based on their low numbers, giving a potential 3% chance. Assuming of course this is how it works.
    Unless these are actually low level rewards (i.e are given for white turn ins) and they therefore have been given a lower chance to be given for high level reward table (ie. blue or purple)
    Last edited by SteeleTrueheart; 02-15-2010 at 11:09 PM.
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    I cashed in coins Saturday February 27, 2010
    Server: Cannith
    House P white Coins and Blue Harbor coins were at 11 PM EST.
    Harbor white Coins and Blue House P coins were at 1 PM EST.


    House P 372 BLUE Coins
    Recipe 1 = 8
    Recipe 2 = 11
    Recipe 3 = 10
    Recipe 4 = 9
    Recipe 5 = 0
    Recipe 6 = 19
    Recipe 7 = 8
    Recipe 8 = 9
    Recipe 9 = 12
    Recipe 10 = 7
    Recipe 11 = 5
    Recipe 12 = 0
    Recipe 13 = 0
    Recipe 14 = 0
    Recipe 15 = 15
    Recipe 16 = 7
    Recipe 17 = 0
    Recipe 18 = 0
    Recipe 19 = 0
    Recipe 20 = 0
    Candy Canes = 5
    Scroll Niacs Cold Ray = 3
    Scroll Snowballs = 1
    SCroll Frost Lance = 3
    Scroll Ice Storm= 5
    SCroll Cone of Cold = 8
    Scroll Otilukes Freezing Sphere = 3
    Scroll Polar Ray = 6
    Potion Frostbite = 9
    Potion Haste = 7
    Potion Jump = 7
    Potion Chill Shield = 4
    Potion Resist Fire = 9
    Potion Prot Fire = 12
    Potion Superior Freeze = 7
    Potion Feather Fall = 8
    Naics Wand, (level 1st, 3rd, 5th) = 5
    Wand Ice Storm = 1
    Wand Cone of COld = 2
    Winter Motes = 1353

    Harbor 300 BLUE Coins, diff amount of coins as House P
    Recipe 1 = 6
    Recipe 2 = 16
    Recipe 3 = 11
    Recipe 4 = 9
    Recipe 5 = 0
    Recipe 6 = 4
    Recipe 7 = 10
    Recipe 8 = 7
    Recipe 9 = 3
    Recipe 10 = 5
    Recipe 11 = 2
    Recipe 12 = 0
    Recipe 13 = 0
    Recipe 14 = 0
    Recipe 15 = 10
    Recipe 16 = 5
    Recipe 17 = 0
    Recipe 18 = 0
    Recipe 19 = 0
    Recipe 20 = 0
    Candy Canes = 10
    Scroll Niacs Cold Ray = 4
    Scroll Snowballs = 4
    SCroll Frost Lance = 5
    Scroll Ice Storm= 6
    SCroll Cone of Cold = 6
    Scroll Otilukes Freezing Sphere = 0
    Scroll Polar Ray = 3
    Potion Frostbite = 9
    Potion Haste = 5
    Potion Jump = 7
    Potion Chill Shield = 4
    Potion Resist Fire = 7
    Potion Prot Fire = 5
    Potion Superior Freeze = 7
    Potion Feather Fall = 7
    Naics Wand, (level 1st, 3rd, 5th) = 8
    Wand Ice Storm = 3
    Wand Cone of COld = 2
    Winter Motes = 1645


    House P 402 White Coins
    Recipe 1 = 13
    Recipe 2 = 0
    Recipe 3 = 8
    Recipe 4 = 0
    Recipe 5 = 0
    Recipe 6 = 2
    Recipe 7 = 5
    Recipe 8 = 4
    Recipe 9 = 0
    Recipe 10 = 0
    Recipe 11 = 0
    Recipe 12 = 0
    Recipe 13 = 0
    Recipe 14 = 0
    Recipe 15 = 0
    Recipe 16 = 5
    Recipe 17 = 0
    Recipe 18 = 0
    Recipe 19 = 0
    Recipe 20 = 0
    Candy Canes = 6
    Scroll Niacs Cold Ray = 6
    Scroll Snowballs = 1
    SCroll Frost Lance = 1
    Scroll Ice Storm= 1
    SCroll Cone of Cold = 0
    Scroll Otilukes Freezing Sphere = 3
    Scroll Polar Ray = 2
    Potion Frostbite = 2
    Potion Haste = 3
    Potion Jump = 2
    Potion Chill Shield = 7
    Potion Resist Fire = 1
    Potion Prot Fire = 7
    Potion Superior Freeze = 0
    Potion Feather Fall = 0
    Naics Wand, (level 1st, 3rd, 5th) = 3
    Wand Ice Storm = 1
    Wand Cone of COld = 2
    Winter Motes = 193

    Harbor 402 White Coins, same amount of coins as House P
    Recipe 1 = 11
    Recipe 2 = 0
    Recipe 3 = 8
    Recipe 4 = 0
    Recipe 5 = 0
    Recipe 6 = 10
    Recipe 7 = 8
    Recipe 8 = 5
    Recipe 9 = 0
    Recipe 10 = 0
    Recipe 11 = 0
    Recipe 12 = 0
    Recipe 13 = 0
    Recipe 14 = 0
    Recipe 15 = 0
    Recipe 16 = 5
    Recipe 17 = 0
    Recipe 18 = 0
    Recipe 19 = 0
    Recipe 20 = 0
    Candy Canes = 7
    Scroll Niacs Cold Ray = 0
    Scroll Snowballs = 0
    SCroll Frost Lance = 4
    Scroll Ice Storm= 2
    SCroll Cone of Cold = 5
    Scroll Otilukes Freezing Sphere = 0
    Scroll Polar Ray = 0
    Potion Frostbite = 4
    Potion Haste = 2
    Potion Jump = 2
    Potion Chill Shield = 3
    Potion Resist Fire = 3
    Potion Prot Fire = 2
    Potion Superior Freeze = 5
    Potion Feather Fall = 4
    Naics Wand, (level 1st, 3rd, 5th) = 1
    Wand Ice Storm = 0
    Wand Cone of COld = 0
    Winter Motes = 143
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