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    Default Crazy or not? Halfling RGE/MNK/RNG 7/7/6 ?

    I am looking to make a halfling character and has this idea. I would use kamas or fists to fight with..

    7 rogue gives me:
    4d6 sneak attack damage
    Evasion
    Uncanny Dodge

    7 monk gives me:
    Flurry of Blows
    Wholeness of Body
    Purity of Body
    2 class AC
    Wisdom AC
    Slow Fall
    d8 fist damage
    3 monk feats
    Adept wind stance for 15% haste

    6 Ranger allows me to take Tempest for:
    2 AC
    10 haste
    2 favored enemies
    Improved Two Weapon
    Diehard

    Now does all this add up to a viable class for all levels? I would have 25% haste when using fists or dual kamas. I would also have the halfling sneak attack enhancements and was thinking of taking the first level of assassin for the additional 2 points of damage.

    I haven't fully planned it out obviously, but I am pretty sure the first 4 levels would be:
    Rogue
    Ranger
    Ranger
    Monk

    What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight_Marshal View Post
    I would have 25% haste when using fists or dual kamas.
    This part is incorrect.
    The Tempest goodies only apply when you are dual wielding. Handwraps, while attacking as two weapons, are actually only one weapon. Since you only have one weapon equipped, no Tempest goodies apply.

    This is the reason you haven't seen this build already. It would only work with kamas, which are sub-par weapons in the general scheme of things.
    So you'd be taking 6 levels of Ranger and only be able to take advantage of it's benefits when wielding sup-par weapons.
    Not exactly a great trade.
    Those six levels would be better spent on more sneak attack instead.
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    I wasn't sure if the handwraps counted since the upper levels of the two handed feats do give you the extra attacks.

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    Ok, so I know that kamas don't do the UBAR OMFG damage of Khopeshes that tends to draw agro and get you killed, but with a 25% haste, I should be able to swing them fast enough to do pretty good sustained damage. At least that is my theory.

    I am not looking to make an uber damage build, but one that would be great for solo and group play. I only play with friends, so our groups are 4 at max with hirelings to fill out the group.

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    How about barbarian instead of tempest, so you get rage speed?

    7 Rogue / 6 Ranger / 7 Barb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razcar View Post
    I agree with Calebro. The point of Tempest is DPS. Why would you take 6 levels of ranger to boost your DPS, then lower it again by using the kama? Doesn't make sense. Either skip Tempest and go 6 ranger for the other stuff, or better, go rogue 13 instead.

    There will be a monk PrE (one day) called Ninja Assassin - something tells me that that PrE will mix well with rogue levels.
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    What exactly is a ninja assassin? I know that it's a movie film. Perhaps we could discuss the term over some dinner food? Or maybe we should just stick to IM chat on our computer box...

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    I agree with Calebro. The point of Tempest is DPS. Why would you take 6 levels of ranger to boost your DPS, then lower it again by using the kama? Doesn't make sense. Either skip Tempest and go 6 ranger for the other stuff, or better, go rogue 13 instead. (Saying that, if you have two vorpal kamas you could vorpal trash very quickly with this build though. Against bosses or non-vorpalable mobs it wouldn't work as well.)

    There will be a monk PrE (one day) called Ninja Assassin - something tells me that that PrE will mix well with rogue levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight_Marshal View Post
    but with a 25% haste.
    The monk wind stance speed improvement does not stack very well with the Haste spell. The Adept Wind Stance does give you 15% attack speed. Only 5% of that stacks with the Haste Spell though (which gives 15% Haste bonus). So when Hasted, using kamas, you would end up with 15 (haste) + 5 (wind stance) + 10 tempest = 30. With better melee weapons you would end up with 15 (haste) + 10 tempest = 25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newtons_Apple View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anderei View Post
    How about barbarian instead of tempest, so you get rage speed?

    7 Rogue / 6 Ranger / 7 Barb
    Actually I just remember, this yields to an existing build: The Halfling Despoiler, a top short-time DPS for short shrine interval quests.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=191723

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    What if I changed the monk levels to fighter and took Kensai?
    I was looking at elemental burst kukris for weapons!

    After making a paladin with the Khopesh I realized the I can't seem to find good ones nor do I have the millions of plat laying around the the people on the AH seem to think everyone has.

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