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    Community Member MoonRunner's Avatar
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    Default Where to go from here?

    This is my third cleric to build but my first one to get to lvl 8 (6cleric/2rogue.) I want to stay with this one to the end before I try a new build so what is the best way to save the "Frier?"

    Current stats look like this

    Str 10/ 8
    Dex 19/ 18
    Con 8 / 8
    Int 10/ 10
    Wis 22 /21
    Cha 12 /11

    the second number is the raw stat with no equipment on.

    I wear a +5 Mythril Breastplate allowing me to use evade.

    Added Feats are
    Mental Toughness
    Spell Penetration
    Longbow (I plan to retrain this)

    Enhancements are
    Improved spell resist
    Elven Enchant resist
    Followers of the Silver Flame
    Rogue sneak attack training
    Rogue sneak attack training accuracy
    Cleric Concentration
    Cleric Concentration II
    Cleric smiting
    Cleric Life magic
    Cleric life magic II
    Cleric Improved spell penetration
    Cleric Energy of the Zealot
    Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
    Cleric Charisma
    Cleric Wisdom
    Cleric Divine light
    Cleric Divine Vitality
    Cleric Divine Vitality II
    Extra turning
    Extra turning II

    I have learned to save MP by not healing stupidity (noobs who run off on their own) and forcing group to heal themselves between battles. Even with this I tend to find myself running out of juice before other healers when I run in groups with other healers. I think this is because I am the only one healing in the heat of battle but that is another story. I don't do many buffs, bless is useless if in a good group due to inspire courage so that leaves just Pro V evil and resists when needed. With only access to lvl 3 spell atm I don't have many good offensive spells other then devine light which is a turn based spell not MP. I could use some more casting speed and my other offensive spell would be good but they really suck the juice.

    Anyway, where should I go from here and how should I play this toon. I don't like the fact that at the end of a quest I have less kills then my pets but that may just be the way it is till I get my blades. I am afraid my Constitution is too low for me to get where I was hoping with blade barrier but there isn't alot I can do about that so where should I go. Also what type of equipment should I start looking for?

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    What are your goals for this character? That is, what do you want to be doing? Offensive casting? If so you'd want to pick up a CON item and +concentration item to be able to cast effectively in combat, or take the Quicken Spell feat. This will be important for your blade barrier because it takes so long to cast. Concentration/Quicken is also good for a healbot build so your heals don't get interrupted in combat.

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    I would like to start seeing some offensive power however my main duty is healing. I think I will trade the longbow feat for toughness but I have no clue what feat to take at lvl 9. Combat casting or quicken spell would be top of that list as far as I can tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonRunner View Post
    I would like to start seeing some offensive power however my main duty is healing. I think I will trade the longbow feat for toughness but I have no clue what feat to take at lvl 9. Combat casting or quicken spell would be top of that list as far as I can tell.
    Yes, toughness is always a good idea. And try to get your hands on a moderate/heavy fortification item, since critical hits will hurt you a lot because of the low con.

    I say take quicken spell instead, unless you have max ranks in Concentration. Even so, I'd still recommend getting quicken since it halves your casting time and you never get interrupted.

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    Wow level 9 came quick. I took Combat casting. I almost did toughness but it would only give me 12 HP at my current level and if I understand it correctly only 23 at level 20. Will 12 HP really make a difference? I mean most times I croke I go right to negative 30 or something so I would still be dead with the extra 12 HP. Yes Fortification is something I am looking for, perhaps a nice desease imunity belt of heavy fort? Is there such a thing?

    I think what has helped me the most lately is I play like less of a noob. Now that I know I can't kill a fly and have learned to accept that I just kick back and heal durring battle. This works great now that I have learned how to ration my SP by not healing between battles or healing stupidity (noobs who run off by themselves.)

    Now what is the best item to get some Con boosts? I Currently use:

    Looking foir goggles thinking Clever Goggle of the eagle
    +1 Wise helm
    +5 concentration neclace with +10 falselife and +1 attack bonus
    Pearl of power IV
    Desease imunity belt
    Lightning resist cloak
    Feather falling boots w/ +5 jump
    + 2 Strength gloves of +5 jump
    + 1 Charisma ring
    I need a ring but have several I swap out when needed
    +1 AC bracers +3 heal
    +5 Mithryl Breast plate

    Ok probably more info then you need to answer my main question of where do I increase Constitution? However, it is obviouse I have a lot of needed upgrades to do for my current level. I just wiped my bank acount out buying the breastplate, pearl, boots and belt and would like to keep them or at least the boosts they provide. Like I said the main thing I am after NOW is Constution however any advice is welcome on how to outfit this toon.

    Thanks,
    FrierTuck
    Last edited by MoonRunner; 02-15-2010 at 07:20 AM.

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    Combat Casting: Bad
    Toughness: Good.

    Its not just the hp from toughness, but from enhancements that open up from taking toughness as well. At 11 you'll be able to wear the Minos helm, thats more HP and heavy fort. Three extra points from combat casting isn't going to keep you alive, extra hp will.


    Quote Originally Posted by MoonRunner View Post
    Wow level 9 came quick. I took Combat casting. I almost did toughness but it would only give me 12 HP at my current level and if I understand it correctly only 23 at level 20. Will 12 HP really make a difference? I mean most times I croke I go right to negative 30 or something so I would still be dead with the extra 12 HP. Yes Fortification is something I am looking for, perhaps a nice desease imunity belt of heavy fort? Is there such a thing?

    I think what has helped me the most lately is I play like less of a noob. Now that I know I can't kill a fly and have learned to accept that I just kick back and heal durring battle. This works great now that I have learned how to ration my SP by not healing between battles or healing stupidity (noobs who run off by themselves.)

    Now what is the best item to get some Con boosts? I Currently use:

    Looking foir goggles thinking Clever Goggle of the eagle
    +1 Wise helm
    +5 concentration neclace with +10 falselife and +1 attack bonus
    Pearl of power IV
    Desease imunity belt
    Lightning resist cloak
    Feather falling boots w/ +5 jump
    + 2 Strength gloves of +5 jump
    + 1 Charisma ring
    I need a ring but have several I swap out when needed
    +1 AC bracers +3 heal
    +5 Mithryl Breast plate

    Ok probably more info then you need to answer my main question of where do I increase Constitution? However, it is obviouse I have a lot of needed upgrades to do for my current level. I just wiped my bank acount out buying the breastplate, pearl, boots and belt and would like to keep them or at least the boosts they provide. Like I said the main thing I am after NOW is Constution however any advice is welcome on how to outfit this toon.

    Thanks,
    FrierTuck

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    unless i am mistaken, the armor bracers do not stack with the mithral breastplate - i would pick up ogre strength bracers and then replace the gloves with dexterous gloves (more dex increases ur AC and reflex save helping ur evasion). also, as a cleric, u need as much wisdom as u can get... replace the +1 wis helm with a +3 or +4 wis item (wis gives u spell points). yes, u can get disease immune belts with fortification - i see them on the AH all the time. definately pick up a +con item to get u more hp's

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    Thanks. Sounds like a good plan. Maybe I will get a chance to play sometime in the coming week

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    Default 8 con

    honestly you will be ineffective at end game with an 8 con even with shroud hp items. It is never good if you healers get two shotted. I would reroll.

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