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    Default What is enough UMD?

    I haver a 14 bard and still feel much like a noob. The game has much more to uinderstand than any othe rgame i have played. Even more than when I played paper and pen back in the day....

    Anyways, is there such a thing as "enough UMD" ?

    Being a chaotic bard, from what I see to use just about any weapon I need a UMD of 20 (and appropriate level). Aside from that for gear, etc is there a spot I shoudl stop and start putting pts into something else?
    Thanks for advice

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    I usually keep mine maxed. Bards get a ton of skill points so it doesnt hurt.

    Scrolls are the bigger issue than weapons imo. I would shoot for mid 40's unbuffed at a minimum.
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    Generally, 40 is considered the top end goal. This allows no fail heal or GH scrolls. More is better as it will let use those scrolls if you get a penalty (i.e. neg levels) or use higher scrolls.

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    I would say shoot for a min of 39 or so and the more the better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvo View Post
    I haver a 14 bard and still feel much like a noob. The game has much more to uinderstand than any othe rgame i have played. Even more than when I played paper and pen back in the day....

    Anyways, is there such a thing as "enough UMD" ?

    Being a chaotic bard, from what I see to use just about any weapon I need a UMD of 20 (and appropriate level). Aside from that for gear, etc is there a spot I shoudl stop and start putting pts into something else?
    Thanks for advice
    +43 is enough to no-fail resurrection scrolls. You will very rarely have a use for anything higher. But as someone else posted befroe, I'd recommend keeping it maxed. You never know what new item/scroll/etc will come out and you will want to be able to use it.

    Also, if you switch to another skill, that new skill will be very sub-par. I cannot think of a skill Bards have access to that would be ok with so few ranks (after you have so heavily invested in UMD.)

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    52 lets you use level 9 scrolls with no fail.

    AFAIK, that's the highest UMD check in the game. So that would be enough.

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    31 for no-fail Dimension Door Scrolls.
    35 for no-fail Raise Dead Scrolls.
    39 for no-fail Heal Scrolls.
    43 for no-fail Resurrection Scrolls.
    51 for no-fail on any scrolls.


    Those are probably your benchmarks.
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