DoS 18P/2F ... Bard TR option

[demtutor]

New to paladins, so looking for advice specifically on enhancements ... or anything else that may stand out as BAD. In my experience, intimitanks are highly specialized (often absolutely necessary to complete a quest) while not always maxed for high damage output.

I have SP/CHR skills +6 gloves already on the bard and I'm crafting two khopeshes (holy, acid, +4 insight and holy, shocking burst, something) and a set of HP goggles (with Wis +6) before the true rez so that he can use them at 12-ish.

I'm hoping this paladin will be a reliable intimitank with a respectable AC and ability to hold aggro when needed.

Intimidate should be above 50 pretty easily, UMD will be close to 30 (just OK ... but all I could put into it).

I have no idea how to calculate AC ... but based on other posts (assuming they are correct), this should approach 70.

ARMOR CLASS
Base 10
Dex 5 ... no clue here really (think +5 mithral full plate or DT armor)
Armor 15 + 1 = 16
Tower Shield 9 + 1 = 10 ... this includes the alchemical bonus I think
Pally Aura = 6
Barkskin Pot = 3
Protection = 5
Chaosguard = 2
DoS Defensive Stance = 4
Combat Expertise = 5
Insight = 4
TOTAL = 70

Will this build do it?

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.14
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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(2 Fighter \ 18 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 362
Spell Points: 205 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 27
Reflex: 18
Will: 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    24
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         14                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             15                    20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 13
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                     5
Bluff                 2                     5
Concentration         2                     8
Diplomacy             2                     5
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     5
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            6                    29
Jump                  6                    29
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     2
Search                1                     2
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  2                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      4                    16

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise

Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism
Enhancement: Follower of the Silver Flame
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite IV
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Thanks for the time and effort of responding!

[Ninetoes]

Without tumble, you're going to have a hard time moving around while in the DoS defensive stance.

[lord_of_rage]

New to paladins, so looking for advice specifically on enhancements ... or anything else that may stand out as BAD. In my experience, intimitanks are highly specialized (often absolutely necessary to complete a quest) while not always maxed for high damage output.

I have SP/CHR skills +6 gloves already on the bard and I'm crafting two khopeshes (holy, acid, +4 insight and holy, shocking burst, something) and a set of HP goggles (with Wis +6) before the true rez so that he can use them at 12-ish.

I'm hoping this paladin will be a reliable intimitank with a respectable AC and ability to hold aggro when needed.

Intimidate should be above 50 pretty easily, UMD will be close to 30 (just OK ... but all I could put into it).

I have no idea how to calculate AC ... but based on other posts (assuming they are correct), this should approach 70.

ARMOR CLASS
Base 10
Dex 5 ... no clue here really (think +5 mithral full plate or DT armor)
Armor 15 + 1 = 16
Tower Shield 9 + 1 = 10 ... this includes the alchemical bonus I think
Pally Aura = 6
Barkskin Pot = 3
Protection = 5
Chaosguard = 2
DoS Defensive Stance = 4
Combat Expertise = 5
Insight = 4
TOTAL = 70

Will this build do it?

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.14
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(2 Fighter \ 18 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 362
Spell Points: 205 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 27
Reflex: 18
Will: 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    24
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         14                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             15                    20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 13
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                     5
Bluff                 2                     5
Concentration         2                     8
Diplomacy             2                     5
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     5
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            6                    29
Jump                  6                    29
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     2
Search                1                     2
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  2                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      4                    16

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise

Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism
Enhancement: Follower of the Silver Flame
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite IV
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Thanks for the time and effort of responding!

Greetings Im actually finally going to post a human dos tr up but Ill see if I cant help.

Id take twf,dodge, and kopesh at lvl1, toughness at 3, whatever at 6, lesser rez at 7 to pick up itwf at lvl6 with a +2 dex tome, go ftr at lvl8 and take imp crit slash. either PA or CE at 9, GTWF 12, 15,PA, 18 extend if desired. I know Ill wind up with maximize and most likely quicken on my pally for self healing with the torc and conc opp as they proc off glancing hits. I would not take human adapt cha. I would instead take human adapt str. That takes you to a 16 base+5+6item+4tome+1 ftr gives you a 32str without rage. Id take human recovery to 2 and fit dm3 into the build.Id drop cha 1-2 as it eats aps. 15base +3tome+6 item takes you to a 24 cha more than enough for solid lay on hands and exalted smite hits. Ill look at it a bit more when I get off work.

Cheers,

Rage

[demtutor]

I have plenty of skill points to throw a few into tumble, had no idea the DoS stance had movement issues like that (kinda like the Docent of Defiance?).

As for the stat point distribution. No +4's here yet, and i don't want to count on something I'll probably never get. I may get another +3 here before the TR ... so I'll keep the thoughts on CHR in mind.

No comments on the AC or Intimidate, so i'm guessing they look good?

How about the Max Dex bonus to AC, am i making best use of it in full plate? I only ask because this build (Human) is option 1A to going dwarf (option 1B) with their armor mastery boosting AC a little (and minus to CHR dropping intimidate).

Rage - No oversized two weapon fighting? Is that not needed for some reason?

Thanks

[lord_of_rage]

I have plenty of skill points to throw a few into tumble, had no idea the DoS stance had movement issues like that (kinda like the Docent of Defiance?).

As for the stat point distribution. No +4's here yet, and i don't want to count on something I'll probably never get. I may get another +3 here before the TR ... so I'll keep the thoughts on CHR in mind.

No comments on the AC or Intimidate, so i'm guessing they look good?

How about the Max Dex bonus to AC, am i making best use of it in full plate? I only ask because this build (Human) is option 1A to going dwarf (option 1B) with their armor mastery boosting AC a little (and minus to CHR dropping intimidate).

Rage - No oversized two weapon fighting? Is that not needed for some reason?

Thanks

Your to hit is going to be solid without otwf. All it does is negate the -2 to hit from not having light off hand weapon. I dont take it on most builds. If I do its low lvl and swapped later.

The downside to human is you lose 2 ac from not having dwarven armor mastery2. So youll wind up with a standing ac in the mid 70s. Add in a chattering ring +3, and haste +1. That puts you up to an easy 74.If you umd shield wands 78. Raid buffed mid 80s. But Im not one of the ac calc masters on the forums unfortunatly. on ac.

With intim a 45 will hit any trash in game. A 65 intim is a hard tod no fail. But you can hate tank quite easily with dos and the pally clicky. I think you are taking itwf and gtwf really late so Id move those down.