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[Thelmallen]

Lvl 8 (Rank 36) Dwarven Paladin (Custom Build)
Prestige: Paladin Deffender of Siberys (AC Specialized Tank.)

Unbuffed/Full Buff (Personal) Posting your starting stats would be more helpful
Str: 18/20 Hit Points: seems low. My reincarnated evasion paladin has 190 at 8th level
Dex: 13/13
Con: 14/16
Int: 8/8
Wis: 14/14
Cha: 21/21--Having a high charisma is nice for a paladin but your charisma really shouldn't be higher than your strength for a tank build
Damage Reduction: 0/5 (Evil)

Used Items:
Head: Helm of Wizardry 2: +50 Spell points.
Neck: ---
Eyes: Goggles of Minute Seeing: +5 Search--what do you need these for? If it's for finding hidden doors, I'd get a clicky
Armor: +5 Mithril Full Plate
Wrists: +3 Ogre Power Bracers
Ring 1: Ring of Shield of Faith--Potions don't take up an inventory slot. Better used for a protection or resistance item or something
Boots: Feather Fall Boots
Hands: +3 Dexterity Gloves
Ring 2: ---
Belt: +2 Health Belt--+3? I'd find an improved false life belt and put constitution on your neck or ring
Back: +3 Charismatic Cloak--+3?
Trinket: ---

Used Weapons: Mains: +4 Dwarven Axe, +3 Ghost Touch Warhammer of Pure Good, +1 Hold Dwarven Axe of Pure Good
Alts: +4 Warhammer, Giant Stalker's Knife, +1 Ghost Touch Dwarven Axe of Pure Good, +4 Great Axe, +1 Adamantine Returning Throwing Axe, Muck Bane.
Shields: +5 Heavy Steel Shield, +3 Lesser Fire Guard heavy Steel Shield of Light Fortification

Enhancements:
Paladin Armor Class Boost 1 & 2: I don't think the boosts are really that helpful due to their short duration and APs are precious for a paladin. However they are needed for DoS so you've gotta take 'em
Dwarven Armor Mastery 1 & 2: These are a must for the AC intimitanks. However, your max dex is going to be 20 (10+6+2tome) excluding any high end-game gear like the ToD rings, only giving you a +4 dex modifier so you wouldn't be able to max out +5 MFP. The Dragontouched armor is a +1 max dex so you could potentially get the max out of that armor with dwarven armor mastery
Dwarven Constitution 1:
Dwarven Faith 1 & 2: Spell points really aren't a deal-breaker for paladins and you'll need your APs elsewhere later on
Dwarven Shield Mastery: If you're pinched for APs, you may want to drop this. The blocking DR can be nice, however, esp when combined with one of the end-game shields
Paladin Courage of Good 1: only as much as you need for DoS
Paladin Bulwark of Good 1: Max this out
Paladin Focus of Good: only as much as you need for DoS
Where is Resistance of Good? You need that for DoS, I think
Paladin Extra Lay on Hands:
Paladin Defender of Siberys 1
Paladin Energy of the Templar: not that necessary if not a pre-req
Paladin Divine Might 1: take this to 3rd rank

Comments in red.

Some questions/comments:
-What are your level-ups to stats going into? They should all be going into strength
-You took too much wisdom. You don't really need > 8 wisdom for a paladin to be able to cast the high level spells when equipped with the right items
-Consider LR to drop wisdom and increase strength
-Work divine sacrifice into your enhancements, at least to the 2nd level. It's an uber ability
-Work exalted smite into your enhancements. Only slightly less uber than divine sacrifice

[Quikster]

If you want a build evaluation the things you need to focus on are starting stats, feats, race, class, alignment, ap. List these out line by line. For feats note the level you plan on taking them, if multiclassing note the levels you plan on taking what class. It is customary to plan a build to 20, not to 10, so go ahead and make the plot to 20, chances are you will get more feedback.

If you want to offer a service of leveling builds for people so you can report to them how they play in game at various levels, make a specific post for that.

If you need supplies make a post in the marketplace forums that you are looking for XYZ and you have ABC to offer in trade.

If you come here and ask for handout chances are you wont be well recieved, but you might get some things regardless.

You can also try pm'ing posters when they have something for trade, but im guessing most that post a trade list are looking for something in return.

[Thelmallen]

Honestly, i just dont know how to respond to the stuff in this thread

Me either so I thought I'd at least give him some feedback on the build

[Scythera]

Some questions/comments:
-What are your level-ups to stats going into? They should all be going into strength
-You took too much wisdom. You don't really need > 8 wisdom for a paladin to be able to cast the high level spells when equipped with the right items
-Consider LR to drop wisdom and increase strength
-Work divine sacrifice into your enhancements, at least to the 2nd level. It's an uber ability
-Work exalted smite into your enhancements. Only slightly less uber than divine sacrifice

Thankyou. That is exactly what I need. And I appreciate that you kept my desire for AC in mind, as well as the DoS Prestige. I will diffinately do this now/as/when I can. I see many of your thoughts are the same as those I had been thinking.

A few questions/explanations for you, now.
-If I shouldn't use +5 MFP, what should I use until Dragon Touched?
-I was told 14 Wis is a need for the highest level spells, should I go back and make it lower so that I can simply use Stat Items for it?
-So far, Devine Might seems to do nothing to the over all Buff score. Do I simply not see it? Or is something overlapping it and not stacking. Will maxing it out make it stand out?
-I always wondered if False life was better then Con. Con helps the Fort saves, does it have any other use besides that?
-The goggles, yeah... I felt stupid for putting those in the description, just there to give SOMETHING to him, thinking about getting Blindness Ward for it.
-Seen the term SOOO often, but... it means like a hotkey, or a spot on the number bars below, right?
-ToD Rings? What is ToD?
-Pally spells, 11 wisdom for lvl one, 12 Wisdom for lvl 2? Right?
- Yes, to the "+3?" I mean +3 CHA.
-I worry about not boosting my CHA or having it high, because I do enjoy many of the abilities that are made better by Higher CHA

If you want a build evaluation the things you need to focus on are starting stats, feats, race, class, alignment, ap. List these out line by line. For feats note the level you plan on taking them, if multiclassing note the levels you plan on taking what class. It is customary to plan a build to 20, not to 10, so go ahead and make the plot to 20, chances are you will get more feedback.

If you want to offer a service of leveling builds for people so you can report to them how they play in game at various levels, make a specific post for that.

If you need supplies make a post in the marketplace forums that you are looking for XYZ and you have ABC to offer in trade.

If you come here and ask for handout chances are you wont be well recieved, but you might get some things regardless.

You can also try pm'ing posters when they have something for trade, but im guessing most that post a trade list are looking for something in return.

I am worried about making a Build Plan to 20. I haven't gone that far yet, as you can see with my prior discussion. I go day by day, lvl by lvl. Unless I reroll a Pally, I like to focus on the here and now. It makes it less confusing for me. I have rerolled my Trap Monkey, and my Ranger. The Ranger is the BEST he can be at his lvl, and I urge any other to prove me wrong. (Bow spec, though.)
My Trap Monkey has flaws, but those flaws make him better than almost any other Rogue out there at doing what he does. I know, I am sure there are others better, but, at his lvl, I know they are VERY far and in between.
I'm not asking for handouts. I have asked from group members, but never begged. It was often a spur of the moment thing. Because I find it hard to believe a lvl 20 can make 1mil gold in an hour (Swiftly becoming my comparison).
I am offering a service now. And the gold/items I am asking for is greatly understandable, or I would hope. Not to mention that what I consider god money, seems to be chump change. x.x

As well, I thank you, that is exactly what I was asking for.

[Quikster]

Thankyou. That is exactly what I need. And I appreciate that you kept my desire for AC in mind, as well as the DoS Prestige. I will diffinately do this now/as/when I can. I see many of your thoughts are the same as those I had been thinking.

A few questions/explanations for you, now.
-If I shouldn't use +5 MFP, what should I use until Dragon Touched?
-I was told 14 Wis is a need for the highest level spells, should I go back and make it lower so that I can simply use Stat Items for it?
-So far, Devine Might seems to do nothing to the over all Buff score. Do I simply not see it? Or is something overlapping it and not stacking. Will maxing it out make it stand out?
-I always wondered if False life was better then Con. Con helps the Fort saves, does it have any other use besides that?
-The goggles, yeah... I felt stupid for putting those in the description, just there to give SOMETHING to him, thinking about getting Blindness Ward for it.
-Seen the term SOOO often, but... it means like a hotkey, or a spot on the number bars below, right?
-ToD Rings? What is ToD?
-Pally spells, 11 wisdom for lvl one, 12 Wisdom for lvl 2? Right?
- Yes, to the "+3?" I mean +3 CHA.
-I worry about not boosting my CHA or having it high, because I do enjoy many of the abilities that are made better by Higher CHA






I am worried about making a Build Plan to 20. I haven't gone that far yet, as you can see with my prior discussion. I go day by day, lvl by lvl. Unless I reroll a Pally, I like to focus on the here and now. It makes it less confusing for me. I have rerolled my Trap Monkey, and my Ranger. The Ranger is the BEST he can be at his lvl, and I urge any other to prove me wrong. (Bow spec, though.)
My Trap Monkey has flaws, but those flaws make him better than almost any other Rogue out there at doing what he does. I know, I am sure there are others better, but, at his lvl, I know they are VERY far and in between.
I'm not asking for handouts. I have asked from group members, but never begged. It was often a spur of the moment thing. Because I find it hard to believe a lvl 20 can make 1mil gold in an hour (Swiftly becoming my comparison).
I am offering a service now. And the gold/items I am asking for is greatly understandable, or I would hope. Not to mention that what I consider god money, seems to be chump change. x.x

As well, I thank you, that is exactly what I was asking for.

DT FP will be better.
DM adds to your buffs, you are looking in the wrong place. Adds to damage.

Most players arent making 100k plat an hour

Break your posts into 3. A build, a looking for, and an offering X service post.

[Scythera]

DT, FP? Oi, with all the acronyms lad. T.T

[Quikster]

DT, FP? Oi, with all the acronyms lad. T.T

DragonTouched FullPlate lad.

Post the rest of your build if you want some real build tips, we are only working with half the picture.

[Scythera]

Tell me exactly what you need. And I will tell you exactly what I have...

[Scythera]

Wait, never mind. I found what you wanted. Now let me get to typing.

[Thelmallen]

-I was told 14 Wis is a need for the highest level spells, should I go back and make it lower so that I can simply use Stat Items for it?
Because you can put those build points into other, more important stats. Paladins usually have plenty of spell points and spell DC doesn't matter so there's no point in putting any more build points into wisdom than you actually need
-I always wondered if False life was better then Con. Con helps the Fort saves, does it have any other use besides that?
Con gives you extra hit points as well. For every even number over 10 you get an extra hp/level. Ideally you want both your max con item and (x)false life item on at the same time.
-The goggles, yeah... I felt stupid for putting those in the description, just there to give SOMETHING to him, thinking about getting Blindness Ward for it.
Pick up a pair of trapblast goggles from STK for the reflex save or the goggles of insight from Korthos
-ToD Rings? What is ToD?
Tower of Despair, high level raid
-I worry about not boosting my CHA or having it high, because I do enjoy many of the abilities that are made better by Higher CHA
I agree. I'm just saying that, in my opinion, strength is the most important stat for a paladin followed by charisma and constitution

I am worried about making a Build Plan to 20.
Those of us who've capped out characters learned a long time ago to build for end-game. You can usually blast through a level in a few days at most so planning for the future makes more sense. I realize you play in the here and now but until recently when reincarnation became an option there was really nothing more frustrating than realizing you screwed something up at 2nd level that impacts you negatively at cap. Even with reincarnation, it still makes more sense to plan for the character that you want to end up with.

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