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    Default Build needed, THF dps pally.

    Before you start, i know that TWF is better for DPS than THF, but what can i say, i like my big sword!
    After reading a post about a WF THF pally doing amazing hits (like 600-800) the idea of a THF pally start to grow.
    Why? because for one i want to be a bit different, tired of all those TWF drows!
    Anyway, i'm looking for tips and a good build if you can find one.
    I'm a human so WF is close for me, already level 11...

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    Uh...

    What exactly...are you wanting help with? Do you already have a build you want advice on, or are you wanting one...? *Is confused.*

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    EDIT: Oh, missed the point Aylin made. You're already level 11 human pally? If so, what kind of advice did you want? Leaving the below if it has any suggestions you will find useful, though.

    Warforged thf pally is decent enough, not a bad choice at all.
    Depending on whether you have 28 or 32 point builds, and what tomes (if any) you have it could be:

    Option 1.
    28 point, no tomes:
    STR 16 + lvl ups
    DEX 8
    CON 16
    INT 8
    WIS 12
    CHA 12

    This has the advantage of being able to cast spells without tomes or wisdom items. Disadvantage is that you'll lose out on DM, it being able to reach only rank 1 or 2, depending on what tome you can get later on.

    Option 2.
    32 point, +2 tomes.
    STR 18 + lvl ups
    DEX 8
    CON 16
    INT 8
    WIS 6
    CHA 14

    This has the advantage of higher strength, and higher cha for better rank Divine Might. Disadvantage is low wisdom meaning you can't cast spells until fairly late, even with a +2 wisdom tome.
    Some people will advocate 16 start STR and CHA, and two lvl ups for CHA in order to get Divine Might rank 4. This is very possible, and will give better DPS than my choice. I like my to hit to be high, though, in order to do Epic difficulty later on more easily. In regular questing, though, the higher CHA build does win out in DPS terms.

    Feats:
    1 Ada body*
    3 THF
    6 Power Attack
    9 Improved Critical (Slashing)
    12 Extend Spell
    15 ITHF
    18 GTHF*

    *: You will likely want a toughness feat for better HP. Personally, I'd change out Ada body around level 15 for toughness, but if you want a chance for a semi-decent AC, you could forego GTHF instead.

    Skills: Depending on tomes and your intent, there are two skills that are useful: Balance and UMD. I like balance myself, but if you're going to grind a lot of equipment and want to be able to use RR items and raise/heal scrolls later on, UMD is the way to go. All the cool vets use UMD, so if you have a +2 int tome, I'd max UMD and take the rest in balance so you won't lie too much down while others are fighting. If you don't have tomes or stuff yet, I'd go for balance and reincarnate later on instead, if you find you miss it.

    Disclaimer: This is my opinion only. Though I have played several pallies over the years back in Europe, I'm NOT an uber vet like some here.
    Last edited by Dandonk; 02-09-2010 at 04:28 AM.

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    Huuu sorry about confusion boys was late...
    So i would love advice on builds for a human pally THF. I'm already level 11, but planning on reincarnate (pick up HotD, love the features but, no future!) so everything is open. I have tome +2 across the board and 32 points available.
    Can't change race (i think) but reincarnate will give me enhanc, skills and feats to relocate, so have fun!
    Thanks

    edit: i'm a HUMAN, not a WF, so plz send builds with human as base..
    Last edited by Choopak; 02-09-2010 at 05:24 AM.

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    32 point human:
    STR 18
    DEX 8
    CON 14
    INT 8
    WIS 8
    CHA 16

    Feats: Toughness, THF, Power Attack, Extend Spell, Improved Critical, ITHF, GTHF
    One feat left, to use on more toughness if you want more HP, or Stunning Blow perhaps.

    Skills: Balance and UMD maxed. The extra you get from INT tome might be used for Tumble (to lessen dmg in reaver, mostly), jump (always nice) or concentration (if you're annoyed at spells getting interrupted in combat).

    I would strongly recommend using HOTD until you get into Vale (for fleshies). The extra healing, ghost touch effect and immunity to neg levels are very nice. BUT, when you enter vale it's time to respec to KOTC. The DPS from that PrE is very very nice.

    Other enhancements: Extra and Exalted Smiting, at least one extra LOH, Divine Sacrifice, Divine Might, toughness enhancements, and at least some ranks in the aura to make ac toons near you happy (don't forget a rank or two in saves, too, is nicey). Also, at least one rank of human improved healing.

    Don't take too many cha enhancements, though, they're too expensive for the benefit they provide (IMO).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    32 point human:
    One feat left, to use on more toughness if you want more HP, or Stunning Blow perhaps.
    Force of Personality is also a good call for +4 to Will, or maybe Cleave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKDragonLord View Post
    Force of Personality is also a good call for +4 to Will, or maybe Cleave.
    Ah, true, FOP is nice for more will save. And cleave can be useful for when you're approaching a group of mobs, though not so much in boss fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKDragonLord View Post
    Force of Personality is also a good call for +4 to Will, or maybe Cleave.
    If you're maxing UMD, then SF: UMD is a good choice as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justagame View Post
    If you're maxing UMD, then SF: UMD is a good choice as well.
    QFT.

    UMD is That nice.
    WF Pallys dont get that many options, with the Body feats and all.
    I might consider switching it out for this, 50ish AC hasn't been of much use lately.
    Last edited by KKDragonLord; 02-09-2010 at 03:38 PM.

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