I see TONS of new stuff for every class but cleric

[likuei]

... where are we going to get some love? I did read up on the PrEs, and they are nothing compared to every other class. As a matter of fact, the PrEs seem to be extensions of Class abilities that were poor translations to being with, due to monster inflation. And the Capstone? Come on. Are Clerics going to get anything that will give the class more options other than HEALER?

[TheDjinnFor]

Wait, clerics have PrE's now? Wow... I missed that... Whoops.

Hate to be a nuisance, but... can someone link me to the supposed cleric PrE(s)?

[Daehawk]

There are more classes than just Clerics that don't have their PrE's yet. Give them time to get them all out. If you think the Faith stuff is a Prestige, you are incorrect. The Faith stuff will be required though for your Tier 3 of the prestige though like the Paladins I'd assume.

[Goldeneye]

Clerics got something.... it's called Favored Soul. Re-speccing the favored soul path gives you:

• **** ton more sp
• better saves
• better ap
• class toughnesses
• better weapon specs
• better capstone
• jump!
• Wings!

when following the favored soul path, the healer sacrifices a few spells and DV's.

I would say that the healer class got the biggest upgrade this mod

(EDIT: I know this will give me negative rep for honesty.)
(EDIT 2: Lol +1 Rep, -1 Rep from this post ha ha)

[TheDjinnFor]

Clerics got something.... it's called Favored Soul. Re-speccing the favored soul path gives you:

• **** ton more sp
• better saves
• better ap
• class toughnesses
• better weapon specs
• better capstone
• jump!
• Wings!

when following the favored soul path, the healer sacrifices a few spells and DV's.

I would say that the healer class got the biggest upgrade this mod

(EDIT: I know this will give me negative rep for honesty.)

And loses versatility. Laugh if you want. But I think it's a rough tie.

[samthedagger]

The favored soul and cleric are both divine casters, but that's really where the similarity ends. Not to turn this into a class warfare thread, but the favored soul is a specialist with better melee capability, while the cleric is a generalist with more versatility. They both have their merits and their faults.

[Xalxika]

Clerics got something.... it's called Favored Soul. Re-speccing the favored soul path gives you:

• **** ton more sp
• better saves
• better ap
• class toughnesses
• better weapon specs
• better capstone
• jump!
• Wings!

when following the favored soul path, the healer sacrifices a few spells and DV's.

I would say that the healer class got the biggest upgrade this mod

(EDIT: I know this will give me negative rep for honesty.)

Come on! That's like saying the Wizards got something: sorcerer. Not trying to slam ya man, but the FvS is basically like the sorc to wiz in most respects. But now the wiz has a PrC and the sorc does not, so I'm with the "Clerics need some LOVE" rioters as well.

Cheerio,
Xal

[Ranmaru2]

Clerics got something.... it's called Favored Soul. Re-speccing the favored soul path gives you:

• **** ton more sp
• better saves
• better ap
• class toughnesses
• better weapon specs
• better capstone
• jump!
• Wings!

when following the favored soul path, the healer sacrifices a few spells and DV's.

I would say that the healer class got the biggest upgrade this mod

There's only one area clerics still win, and I address that here, but overall I will agree that clerics need something in order to give them another look.

I don't know what ideas have been given already regarding domains (is there a thread where it's all concentrated?) but what about making the Domains Feats? You select the Domain from a list at level 1 and it gives you the two spells as feats to put on your hot bar and share the same # of uses (increase via enhancements possible?) and each level after you get the feat bestowed to you for the appropriate spells for the domain. This might not seem like a whole lot but it would be an improvement of sorts for the class.

I'm just really hoping the PrEs are worth something, or else I'll be modifying my battle cleric build even further with a TR/GR

[Enochroot]

And loses versatility. Laugh if you want. But I think it's a rough tie.

Wait, wait, you've been posting all this hogwash and you haven't even CAPPED a FvS yet?!?!?!?!


/shakes head.

[Goldeneye]

likuei: I deeply apologize for de-railing your thread. This isn't a Fvs vs. Cleric thread... there are enough of those.

[likuei]

Clerics can get similar Faith bonuses simply by TRing; I'm looking for meat and potatoes improvements, not soup for Clerics. All of the other classes have had SIGNIFICANT changes since I started playing and I do not see the same for Clerics.

[bobbryan2]

And loses versatility. Laugh if you want. But I think it's a rough tie.

Cap a favored soul. You'll change your mind.

[bobbryan2]

And yeah... those cleric PrE are going to have to be pretty amazing. Free empowered healing from radiant servant isn't going to cut it.

Now would be a good time for domains.