I dont quite understand the lesser hearts of wood

[Strenth_Lawholding]

I dont get as much time to play as I once did, and I came home today to see a new patch with respecs? Now I understand these are quite pricey if you buy them...but I have a 17 clr 1 pal that I have been wanting to remove the one level of paladin for 2 years.

If I buy a Lesser Heart of Wood +1 does that start me at level 1 and I have re level by adventuring to remove the one level of paladin.

or.....

Do I buy it click it and instant level back up to 18 (ala starting at level 4 now) and get to change my one level? And within 10 mins Im level 18 cleric and happy again

Any help to answering this question would be greatly appreciated. I really dont have time to relevel toons at this point in time..so losing my cleric back to level one would really stink.

Thanks!!

[Uska]

get your little lesser +1 heart take it to the reincarnation guy in house J and he will tell you some stuff acceppt log out and on your character you will see the option to reincarnate do so and you can take one level different then you have now and the rest of the class options will be the same as you have now.


you can reallocate your stats and feats freely as well as skills any tomes youi have used will reapply at the appropraite levels.


You lose no favor or flagging all gear will be unequipped at least it was on me but that was easy enough to fix

if you have enough exp to reach the next level do you levling up before you reincarnate.

with the lesser you wont relevel

[Ingo]

To clarify...

Do I buy it click it and instant level back up to 18 (ala starting at level 4 now) and get to change my one level? And within 10 mins Im level 18 cleric and happy again

Yes, instant level. Just like starting a new character at level 4 with Vet status.

The +1 heart of wood lets you make one class change along the way to pick a different class than you picked originally. You just need to pick Cleric each time. Ten minutes of clicking.

Since you start at character creation, you can also set your stats differently, if you wish, as well as skill choices along the way.

Also, you might want to wait until they release greater reincarnation. That works like lesser except that you start with 32 build points for stats instead of 28, unless you're a Drow.

Complete any pending level up before you do this, and either unequip everything or make sure you have enough room in inventory to auto-unequip everything (only to avoid the hassle of retrieving overflow).

For anyone else reading this, be aware that if you reincarnate so that you can take a class at a different point, such as taking Rogue at level 1 instead of at level 4 when you originally took it, then you need a +3 heart (actually a +2, but they are not available).

For example, if you were Rng-9/Rog-1 and originally took the Rogue level as your 3rd level up, you'd need to take Rogue instead of Ranger as your first level, and then take Ranger instead of rogue as your 3rd level. So moving the point at which you splashed requires two changes and a +3 Heart (unless Turbine starts providing +2 Hearts).

Moving the splash point and also taking a second splash level can also be done with a +3 Heart.

[Namtti]

To clarify...


Also, you might want to wait until they release greater reincarnation. That works like lesser except that you start with 32 build points for stats instead of 28, unless you're a Drow.

so if you are a 32 point build they down grade ya to 28? ouch

[Phidius]

so if you are a 32 point build they down grade ya to 28? ouch

No, but if you are a 28-point build you stay a 28-point build.

[Namtti]

No, but if you are a 28-point build you stay a 28-point build.

ah, cool thx!

[Narwayne]

To clarify...

For anyone else reading this, be aware that if you reincarnate so that you can take a class at a different point, such as taking Rogue at level 1 instead of at level 4 when you originally took it, then you need a +3 heart (actually a +2, but they are not available).

For example, if you were Rng-9/Rog-1 and originally took the Rogue level as your 3rd level up, you'd need to take Rogue instead of Ranger as your first level, and then take Ranger instead of rogue as your 3rd level. So moving the point at which you splashed requires two changes and a +3 Heart (unless Turbine starts providing +2 Hearts).

Moving the splash point and also taking a second splash level can also be done with a +3 Heart.

So, if you wanted to change two levels, could you buy one +1 heart, change it, then wait the seven days and buy another +1 heart?

Or in this case, use a +1 heart and change level 1 to rogue, wait seven days, then use another +1 heart and take ranger at level three??

[Lorien_the_First_One]

So, if you wanted to change two levels, could you buy one +1 heart, change it, then wait the seven days and buy another +1 heart?

Or in this case, use a +1 heart and change level 1 to rogue, wait seven days, then use another +1 heart and take ranger at level three??

Yes, you could do it in two +1 steps... but the +3s will be available "soon" and will likely be cheaper than two +1s.

[Narwayne]

Yes, you could do it in two +1 steps... but the +3s will be available "soon" and will likely be cheaper than two +1s.

Soon, schmoon. I'll bet that as soon as I buy two +1's, the +3's will go on sale...so I'll be doing everyone else a favor.

[voidstar2k10]

lets say I have a lvl 11 wiz/rog I took rog at 1st and 9th lvl wiz for all the rest, now I want to "remake" him into a pure wiz. I need eather a +3 heart of wood or 2 +1's the first one would change my 1st lvl to wiz then wait 7 days use another +1 and change lvl 9 to wiz. right?
still kinda confused.

and a +3 I could change both 1st and 9th lvls at the same time?
all of y equipment would still be in my inventory, what about my spell book? I have heard that is a bit of a problem, something about not getting "free" spells at new lvls.
also I dont have vet status yet so I would start at 1 again?

[Girlbrush]

lets say I have a lvl 11 wiz/rog I took rog at 1st and 9th lvl wiz for all the rest, now I want to "remake" him into a pure wiz. I need eather a +3 heart of wood or 2 +1's the first one would change my 1st lvl to wiz then wait 7 days use another +1 and change lvl 9 to wiz. right?

Correct.

and a +3 I could change both 1st and 9th lvls at the same time?

Yes.

what about my spell book? I have heard that is a bit of a problem, something about not getting "free" spells at new lvls.

I'm not sure about that part.

also I dont have vet status yet so I would start at 1 again?

You'll still stay as lvl 11 after re-leveling on the airship. Vet status changes nothing. It's only True Reincarnation that brings you back to level 1.

[voidstar2k10]

thank you.
you verified my thoughts. sometimes you need to get a second opinum on things.

now for the hard desion should I drop rog and go pure wiz or keep everything the same?
with rog I have evasion, with wiz I have more spells/spell points and power.
this may take some thought.

[Narwayne]

thank you.
you verified my thoughts. sometimes you need to get a second opinum on things.

now for the hard desion should I drop rog and go pure wiz or keep everything the same?
with rog I have evasion, with wiz I have more spells/spell points and power.
this may take some thought.

My guildie sorcerer doesn't get close enough to the action to benefit from evasion that often, so he wouldn't give up the spell points and spell penetration, and you get even less spell points than a wizard. With that being said, he usually plays with someone, so there's always a rogue or ranger to go through a trap first...if he were soloing, he might consider picking up evasion. Especially since at higher level quests we're seeing a lot more enemy blade barriers and such.

[Frikte]

I got a paladin 15 lvl now but i messed up a bit during my last 3 level ups..(wrong stat increase at 12 lvl, some skill points..) would I be able with a heart of wood to change my last three lvls of paladin and retake them as paladin?

Thnx

[Girlbrush]

I got a paladin 15 lvl now but i messed up a bit during my last 3 level ups..(wrong stat increase at 12 lvl, some skill points..) would I be able with a heart of wood to change my last three lvls of paladin and retake them as paladin?

Thnx

Yes, you should be able to use a lesser heart of wood to retake those last three levels of paladin.

[Uska]

I got a paladin 15 lvl now but i messed up a bit during my last 3 level ups..(wrong stat increase at 12 lvl, some skill points..) would I be able with a heart of wood to change my last three lvls of paladin and retake them as paladin?

Thnx

If you staying pure paladin you just take a plain lesser heart and you will rebuild your paly from lvl 1 redoing skills,stats,lvl ups you can just change the last 3 lvls you will start from lvl 1 but will have the xp to go all way back to 15 just keep talking to the check on the boat until your done you will have to redo your enhancemnts to. have a little space in you packs as any gear above lvl 1 will become unequiped.

[dpadan17]

so help me out. I am currently in process of the 12 fighter/6 ranger/2 rogue build. I took 6 ranger first, then 2 rogue (for evasion purposes), then 2 fighter. I didn't realize the extra points for taking the rogue at the beginning. If I wanted to get the rogue in the first level, then 6 ranger, one rogue, then 2 fighter, what do I need to get and do?

Will a +3 let me make the change at the first level? Then will I be able to take the 6 ranger, then 1 rogue, then 2 fighter? I am confused and VERY new to this.

Ultimately I just want the extra points for taking rogue at the beginning.

Or is there a different way someone would do this to get the build. I like the evasion part already during the middle levels and would want to keep it. I have a monk for my other toon and play like him for I am EVASION happy.

Please help. thanks.