Monkage: We can has Update 3 <3

[oweieie]

None of the new wraps beat stuff already on the AH for cheap. Don't bother.

[BlackcladAngel]

Devotion.
The new ones from Delera's.
Not Devout.
Different wraps.

Ah. My mistake, sorry. My caffiene-addled brain should not be posting.

[Fafnir]

Why can't you use them?
They're Holy, not Pure Good. LN should be able to use them just fine.

Because they are Good only, UMD 20. If you had them, and were LN, you would know that. Why this is the case, who knows, but it is the case.

[Arsont]

All right! A bunch of useless weapons, 4 dark paths moves that are completely worthless, and a DPS mechanic that requires you to give up DPS.

Perhaps now you would like to give us paper cuts and pour lemon juice on them?

To what are you referring when you mention the DPS mechanic that makes us give up DPS? I may have misread something in the release notes, or just somehow skipped it.

[Calebro]

To what are you referring when you mention the DPS mechanic that makes us give up DPS? I may have misread something in the release notes, or just somehow skipped it.

He's a q-staff user. The new dark path monk ability only works unarmed.
He didn't originally mention that he was a q-staff user, so that part was confusing.
The flame war that eventually followed explained this point.

[Khorban]

He's a q-staff user. The new dark path monk ability only works unarmed.
He didn't originally mention that he was a q-staff user, so that part was confusing.
The flame war that eventually followed explained this point.

Ha Ha Ha.

I left the posting to play yesterday - check my emails this AM and saw some post about DPS being gone... I'm like are you serious? It's too early in the AM for somebody who is just looking for attention and just posting nonsense cause they haven't read the release notes...

Then.. I saw there was a whole 'nother discussion going on....

I tried Dark Monk before the update - quickly Re-Vetted back to Light. Use a q-staff? Not even when I was at the Dojo. While I respect the weap, I couldn't carry it to work - so I relied on my hands or blades (yea).

I do the same in-game. I just can't bring myself to use a q-staff and from the looks of it - glad I haven't.

I might give the DMonk another whirl - but he won't be using a q-staff

[TPICKRELL]

Ha Ha Ha.
I do the same in-game. I just can't bring myself to use a q-staff and from the looks of it - glad I haven't.

I might give the DMonk another whirl - but he won't be using a q-staff

Lyeman is using a specific named quarterstaff -- Rahl's might which is classified as a qstaff, but has blades on each end. I'm a wrap based monk, but if I had a Rahl's might, I would certainly use it some of the time (it bypassed piercing DR for example).

I use a wraps 90% of the time, vorps 7% of the time and a paralyzing qstaff the rest, when have a bit more reach makes a difference (air elies mostly).

[Arsont]

Yes, I just finished going through the flamewar thread discussing unarmed DPS vs QS DPS. First off, I still don't see how, for the majority of the time, Rahl's Might would be able to out-DPS a capped, ToD ring wielding, +5 wraps of etc. Granted, I might be inclined to use the staff if I need to get past DR Pierce, but for the majority of the time, my wraps or kamas will still let me do better DPS (Since I'm a finessed GTWF Dex build, instead of a Str GTHW build). And as far as Touch of Death goes....I'm happy it's a unarmed only move. If the QS is oh-so-high and mighty for monk DPS, this will even it out. If it's not (Which I believe), then it just improves Monk DPS overall. But then, I've never used a QS. I don't even carry one on my monk....we'll see.

[Impatiens]

None of the new wraps beat stuff already on the AH for cheap. Don't bother.

For low levels I disagree. Many of these wraps have no minimum level. The ones from Delera's are holy with no min level. That is very useful assuming you go with LG for your alignment to be able to use them.

[Calebro]

For low levels I disagree. Many of these wraps have no minimum level. The ones from Delera's are holy with no min level. That is very useful assuming you go with LG for your alignment to be able to use them.

Holy does not require a good alignment. Pure Good does.

[Impatiens]

Holy does not require a good alignment. Pure Good does.

Devotion handwraps require good alignment despite the fact that they are holy. Even pure good handwraps don't require good alignment right now.

[Dylvish]

None of the new wraps beat stuff already on the AH for cheap. Don't bother.

Picked up Devotion last night after soloing Delara's on my 8 monk. Have to admit I love em so far. I dont find anything holy or pure good cheap on the AH, not to mention good aligned. I may be wrong here.. but it SEEMS like they are also affecting my light heal finishing move. Any confirmation or corrections on this?

[Calebro]

Devotion handwraps require good alignment despite the fact that they are holy. Even pure good handwraps don't require good alignment right now.

Do you have a pair to confirm this?
It doesn't say anything about a good alignment here.

[Impatiens]

Do you have a pair to confirm this?
It doesn't say anything about a good alignment here.

Yes, I got them yesterday. Also there is a screenshot in a post about new monk loot that shows the alignment. The compendium tends to not show alignment requirements on things. For example, Ring of the Ancestors also requires good alignment but that is not shown on the compendium either.

[Quijonsith]

Picked up Devotion last night after soloing Delara's on my 8 monk. Have to admit I love em so far. I dont find anything holy or pure good cheap on the AH, not to mention good aligned. I may be wrong here.. but it SEEMS like they are also affecting my light heal finishing move. Any confirmation or corrections on this?

Confirmation: devotion handwraps have +30% to healing spells. I notice quite a difference on my heal finisher with my superior potency ring, aswell as I think to my fire/fire/fire finisher. Haven't taken it off to check the numbers on the cone of fire.

[Impatiens]

Picked up Devotion last night after soloing Delara's on my 8 monk. Have to admit I love em so far. I dont find anything holy or pure good cheap on the AH, not to mention good aligned. I may be wrong here.. but it SEEMS like they are also affecting my light heal finishing move. Any confirmation or corrections on this?

They have improved Devotion I on them and the light finishing move is considered a level 1 spell. They will affect the light finisher and the first halfling dragonmark.

[Impatiens]

Do you have a pair to confirm this?
It doesn't say anything about a good alignment here.

Hope that's proof enough for you.

[Calebro]

Hope that's proof enough for you.

Your previous post was good enough for me, but thanks none the less!

[Impatiens]

Your previous post was good enough for me, but thanks none the less!

Well now everyone can see It's kind of ridiculous they have an alignment requirement, but so it goes.

[The_Duck]

very nice!
This is a reward from Delera's line? Gonna run that tonight then.