Monk help

[Mumu720]

Ok so i made a str/dex based monk, im going for more constant dps and not going the sf and qp wis build route, my starting stats were 16/16/14/8/12/8, hesa halfling, i thought about elf but want r
the saves and sneak atk dmg. Im putting 4 if the lvl stats into str and most likely one into con to get tier 4 earth, im windstanced and im the way of the patient tortus. I also had like 8 of those rage rings on my barb so i switched some to my monk so i can buff up str a bit. My standing stats are 18/20/12/14. Thats lvl 4 i can then buff str up to 20 with rings. Planning on tomes. Any critiques, suggestions?

[lyeman]

Reroll.

[Arkat]

Reroll.

If I didn't have to spread more rep around, I'd give you a -1. Not a helpful response.



Mumu720, there are several nice Monk builds in this Monk forum. I suggest going through the threads by title and see if you can find one you like.

The one thing I will say is Earth Stance is not popular. Sure, you may get a lot of hipoints from 4 tiers of Earth Stance but you don't NEED to get that many.

If you make a WF or Dwarven Monk with a 24 or 26 Con, by endgame they should easily be over 500 HPs.

What you really want is to be in Wind Stance tier 4. The attack speed is great which means a lot more attacks to do damage with.

Good luck!

[lyeman]

If I didn't have to spread more rep around, I'd give you a -1. Not a helpful response.

He max'd STR; what else is there to say?

[Arkat]

He max'd STR; what else is there to say?

I probably wouldn't do that but that doesn't mean he's wrong if he does. Besides, if you think he was wrong, you should have said what he did wrong and why. At least that would have been more helpful.

[Mumu720]

If I didn't have to spread more rep around, I'd give you a -1. Not a helpful response.



Mumu720, there are several nice Monk builds in this Monk forum. I suggest going through the threads by title and see if you can find one you like.

The one thing I will say is Earth Stance is not popular. Sure, you may get a lot of hipoints from 4 tiers of Earth Stance but you don't NEED to get that many.

If you make a WF or Dwarven Monk with a 24 or 26 Con, by endgame they should easily be over 500 HPs.

What you really want is to be in Wind Stance tier 4. The attack speed is great which means a lot more attacks to do damage with.

Good luck!

i said
im windstance, im getting earth 4 for tge strike, i can be in wind stance and still use earth strike, it does do +16 damage.
I also realize that my wiz will be low, however this build was not intended to use stunning fist or qp as at end game they are ineffective, my dex will be the same as it would if i were to roll a wiz/dex so my dex wont be hurt.

[Mumu720]

Reroll.

Lyeman you have been giving builds for elfs with the stats of 16/16/12/8/16/8. And you tell people to put there lvl points in str, now i could
have gone elf with the stats of 16/16/14/8/14/8, basically do what you told me to do, just modified to get earth tier 4 strike, but i prefer the saves of the halfling and the sneak atk damage. Maybe im wrong here but you are telling me to rerole a build that is an upgrade to your elf build that people have said you swear by 0.o

Edit: infact my monk would have higher saves than yours 2 higher will and 4 higher fort

[Mumu720]

Also arkat thank you for not being an ass

[lyeman]

Lyeman you have been giving builds for elfs with the stats of 16/16/12/8/16/8. And you tell people to put there lvl points in str, now i could
have gone elf with the stats of 16/16/14/8/14/8, basically do what you told me to do, just modified to get earth tier 4 strike, but i prefer the saves of the halfling and the sneak atk damage.

That's fine, but 16 STR on halfling cost 6 more build points...

Look, I could go on about it, but there are a zillion threads about how to build a monk, many of them mentioning the distinct disadvantages of min/maxing that the rest of us learned from experience. I can either repeat all of it, all over again, or go dig up 5 links to different threads explaining it all, or I can just say "reroll," which will be the end result anyway.

If you want a STR halfling, you should have started with 14 STR.

[lyeman]

Also arkat thank you for not being an ass

Lol, to you, anyway.

[Samadhi]

Looks fine to me.

One specific tweak I would consider. Starting stats 15 16 15 8 13 8, with all level up's into Str, will get you the exact same Str/Con you are currently building for at endgame, with 1 extra wisdom in there for fun. Not a huge deal - but I definitely like to design around all level up points being used in the same stat since it is typically more effective to do so.

Edit: Str build monks are by far the most effective endgame monks IMO.

[Mumu720]

Looks fine to me.



Edit: Str build monks are by far the most effective ENDGAME monks IMO.

Thats what im going for, sf and qp sound good but sounds like they arent effective later.
There is a reason y i am waiting for that point in con though, im gonna put it in either str or con at 18, depending on if i actually want to go for tier for earth strike or not or if i get lucky enought for that +4 to con tome and can afford to put it in str anyways.

[Phoenicis]

i said
im windstance, im getting earth 4 for tge strike, i can be in wind stance and still use earth strike, it does do +16 damage.
I also realize that my wiz will be low, however this build was not intended to use stunning fist or qp as at end game they are ineffective, my dex will be the same as it would if i were to roll a wiz/dex so my dex wont be hurt.

With your Wis so low you may well be missing out on a chunk of AC though.

I'm nowhere near an expert, but dumping a AC source just doesn't seem to be a wise move.

[NXPlasmid]

[QUOTE=Arkat;2722900]If I didn't have to spread more rep around, I'd give you a -1. Not a helpful response.
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+1 rep for you in my mind Arkat, the system won't let me rep you again! M

[Mumu720]

With your Wis so low you may well be missing out on a chunk of AC though.

I'm nowhere near an expert, but dumping a AC source just doesn't seem to be a wise move.

yeah ive thought about that, im not sure how big of a gap that will be but, that wis will only drop me a a couple points in ac compared to the wis based monks, but compared to the wf and dwarf str monk builds i will have a point or two on them, so far the ac hasnt been a problem, im at 24 standing then i have a clickie for shield that gets me up to 28. So im not super far behind, im going for a str build but this build, in theory should be more survivable than the wf and dwarf, and do more damage end game than wis build, ill just have to see but thats the main con for the str builds.