Warforged Pet Peeve

[Jonto]

I can't help it.. It really gets to me and I felt the need to share my angst with the world.

Warforged ARE NOT robots.. Everywhere I look, even amongst people who love and only play warforged... So my bot... Gotta love the Droid... etc...

Warforged are sentient Golems.. I as a Warforged have absolutely NO gears. I am actually far closer to an Elemental or perhaps more accurately a Treant. I might ask those same Elf loving supremacists who would never play a robot, which would they rather play, an Elf or a Treant, and would very likely get a much different response.

Furthermore House Cannith did NOT create me, I am Livewood, they perhaps molded my consciousness much as a parent might a child. But they did not give me Life.

I'm not sure why it upsets me so much, maybe it's because I have a friend who refuses to play them because he sees them as robots (and I know he's not alone there). Perhaps my fear is that he sees me as a robot when I play. I wouldn't want to play one if I thought they were robots either.. I mean who wants to be a robotic construct manufactured by a finite and far from perfect race? What does that say about my soul if there is such a thing in Ebberron.

It wouldn't upset me nearly so much if I played a Dwarf and they called me a midget, or a hobbit who was called a munchkin. Perhaps because I know regardless of what they call me, they would still see me as an equal if perhaps shorter bag of flesh. However with the Warforged.. Robot takes upon the connotation of something that perhaps is less than, whose sole purpose is the satisfaction of their betters who "created them".. I don't know perhaps I'm reading too much into this.. God help the world had I been born a minority in Real Life.

I hereby propose the creation of a Warforge appreciation month. Who's with me!?! At least give us Arbor day.

[Freeman]

Frackin' toasters

[Almerel]

I <3 robots

I'm more impressed that this is what you spent your first post doing.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Furthermore House Cannith did NOT create me, I am Livewood, they perhaps molded my consciousness much as a parent might a child. But they did not give me Life..

You have this part entirely wrong. While you are made of livewood, stone, and metal, those parts were assembled based on a design by House C and they then brought sentience to you when they animated you. WF are very much assembled.

I agree, they aren't robots, but you have it wrong too.

[hydra_ex]

But some WF are robots...

Kill stuff. Repeat. Kill stuff. Repeat. And they never get tired about it, and never demand pay either

[rest]

Why do they do the robot dance then?

[Symar-FangofLloth]

You have this part entirely wrong. While you are made of livewood, stone, and metal, those parts were assembled based on a design by House C and they then brought sentience to you when they animated you. WF are very much assembled.

I agree, they aren't robots, but you have it wrong too.

I thought they more... dumped a bunch of ingredients into an ancient machine they didn't fully understand and out popped some warforged. (Hey, sounds like Shroud crafting ) So they kept doing it to sell as cheap military.

[ghettoGenius]

Frackin' toasters

+1 if for nothing else other than the BG reference lol

[Jonto]

You have this part entirely wrong. While you are made of livewood, stone, and metal, those parts were assembled based on a design by House C and they then brought sentience to you when they animated you. WF are very much assembled.

I agree, they aren't robots, but you have it wrong too.

You see.. This is precisely what I mean. It perhaps seems like a fairly unimportant distinction. But the difference between having animation and life turns out to be monumentally important if there is such a thing as a soul in Ebberron.

Your normal standard run of the mill Golem/Iron Defender is animated but most would not go so far as to call them alive. It wasn't until Aaron d'Cannith began incorporating Livewood into his experiments that the Warforged became truly alive.

This livewood I propose is the core of what it is to be a Warforged, without which we are merely golems. As to whether or not Livewood has sentience on it's own is perhaps another discussion.. Certainly I would say the formation of a warforged aids in the development of it's psyche, and makes it's sentience far more recognizeable to those who share similiar traits of sight, hearing, feeling... But I would not preclude a simple slab of livewood from having some form of sentience in it's own right.. That however I leave to House Cannith experimentation.

I proffer the following webpage to any interested in the initial creation of the warforged.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20050627a

It is debatable that the true essence of what it is to be a sentient Warforged lies within the livewood, some might say it's magic itself, but I would disagree as I would consider the standard Stone Golem is equally magical.. What can I say, I'm passionate about Botanical equality.. :P Long live the trees.

[hydra_ex]

Without which we are merely golems.

Says he with the halfling avatar

[AylinIsAwesome]

Says he with the halfling avatar

He's a Halfling made out of Livewood, obviously!

[Sirea]

Gee, next time my 6 year old son looks at my screen and calls my WF a robot, I'll make sure to read him the OP and give him time-out

[rest]

I just realized I stumbled into a RP thread and didn't realize it. I'll be off min/mixing. Have fun with your Ebberon lore!

[Jonto]

Says he with the halfling avatar

Eeeh Gad! Thank you for pointing that out. From here out I shall be known as "The Warforged Cookie"

[Maegin]

Why do they do the robot dance then?

pwned! and the thread is closed.

[Memnir]

I do like the idea of a Warforged Appreciation Day...

[mediocresurgeon]

Warforged ARE NOT robots.. Everywhere I look, even amongst people who love and only play warforged... So my bot... Gotta love the Droid... etc...

Don't hang out with Karnathi citizens if you can't take the discrimination. If you would like to join our Warforged supremacy group, I'll put in a good word for you with the Lord of Blades.

[Lithic]

I do like the idea of a Warforged Appreciation Day...

More likely the coin lords would support a "Rust monster appreciation week", and ask their highest wizards to create the spell "summon rusty swarm".


So... where do I get tickets for the River o' Rust ride?

[Arkat]

Eeeh Gad! Thank you for pointing that out. From here out I shall be known as "The Warforged Cookie"

Pick another one. I had it first!

[DoctorWhofan]

I thought WF were gnomes in costumes that where compasating for something else. Or is that a rumour like diplo'ing chests for better loot.







sarcasm people. I love Toasters!