Still no newbie love for the ranger

[Disavowed]

LFM for Rainbow says looking for dps type and a caster a guide would be nice.

I send tell

Would you like a Str based ranger?

Reply

No Thanks we need a tank

ME OK NP my ranger can hit a 40 STR self buffed and has 520 hp and I've ran it at least 400 times and have soloed the quest before they made the graphics change but if that's not enough of a tank enjoy and good luck.

Reply your ranger has over 500 hp

Yep

Ok you can be a our tank join.

Needless to say now I had something to prove so I join.

I join I head to entrance as we are waiting forever to fill the last spot. So I finally suggest we just 5 man it.

reply from leader No we need to wait for a tank

5 minutes later ding a fighter joins and it's the leaders friend. Leader states now we have a tank we'll own this quest.

End of quest the fighter has 24 kills the sorc has 62 and Watneys the ranger has 90 something.

Next quest different leader is A Shroud run. I'm on Sapporo my Fighter. We're once again looking to fill and I look at the LFM and see the only open spots are for fighters & Barbs. So I send private tell to leader.

It's your group but why no rangers.

reply

Rangers suck they do no damage.

Me Dude you have a lot to learn about rangers

Leader I've been playing this game long enough to know what builds can't dish out damage and rangers and monks can't dish out damage.

Me

Hmmm there are all ranger and all monk Shroud groups sometimes. Did you know this? Arkat is a WF monk that could keep up with any of my dps toons. It's not the class it's the person building the class. Just so you know when you put up LFMs omitting those classes it usually steers the vets that know how to play this game away. It's a red flrag to them that the leader in inexperienced or the raid is most likely going to fail.

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Then those guys are noobs and don't know sh!t.

Me
No. They like me have been playing for 3+ years, and they not necessarily me are considered some of the best players on the server. You can learn a lot from them.

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All I know is rangers suck all they, do is run around with many shot and shoot arrows.

Conversation ends after we finally fill and go do quest.

So like my other post last month here we go again. Can't wait to see how long this is going to take to work itself out.

[Tap4black]

Meh, it's prolly just no love for YOUR Ranger! : Even the Noobtards know all about yer gimpness

[Raegoul]

You are so AWESOME!!! Dude!

[Arkat]

You are so AWESOME!!! Dude!

Hola Bienvenido

[Disavowed]

You are so AWESOME!!! Dude!

Far from it dude! Most vets on here know and play far better than I can or ever will. People like you are far more fitting to be held in that regard.

It has nothing to do with how good me or anyone else is. It has nothing to do with what me toon can or can't do. It's simply pointing out the fact that a toon can have str and hp regardless of class. Telc has a sorc that's going to hit 500 hp and is currently over 300 hp at level 11 ish. He told us about it. Does that make him a braggart? No he was telling us so that we could open our eyes to something new.

[gillilandjoshua]

i hear ya beer man. i have seen sorcs tank orthos in Vod, FvS tank all the bosses in ToD, and str based rangers and pallies even that dual wield and dish out more damage than most of the "tank" classes i have seen lately.

P.S. while i do not consider my self the best player i am one of those vets that doesn't join lfm's lookin for dps that excludes rangers.

[Louiey]

Yep, I've seen alot of posts for groups that won't take a ranger too. No love

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

It's simply amazing how many lfms exclude rogues as soon as they have one, or just leave them out from the start. Especially when the leader is a rogue (*facepalm*).

I don't mind it though, just another indicator of which groups to avoid!

[Disavowed]

i hear ya beer man. i have seen sorcs tank orthos in Vod, FvS tank all the bosses in ToD, and str based rangers and pallies even that dual wield and dish out more damage than most of the "tank" classes i have seen lately.

P.S. while i do not consider my self the best player i am one of those vets that doesn't join lfm's lookin for dps that excludes rangers.

You're right all sorts can tank. The problem is the newb sees fighter and assumes tank. All that symbol does is give someone who's clueless on rolling a toon a mask to hide behind. Newb leader sees the symbol and assumes hp and str. I can't tell you how many new fighters I've seen who dump con and assume that AC will make up for it. They think that a 45 end game AC is great. You can't tell them different. Meanwhile a vet takes a rogue as guildmaster pointed out and rolls him correctly and ends up with more HP and DPS than the so called tank.

Hopefully as more new people play they will read the forums and posts like this and replies like yours will open their eyes?

[NXPlasmid]

You are so AWESOME!!! Dude!

Far from it dude! Most vets on here know and play far better than I can or ever will. People like you are far more fitting to be held in that regard.

It has nothing to do with how good me or anyone else is. It has nothing to do with what me toon can or can't do. It's simply pointing out the fact that a toon can have str and hp regardless of class. Telc has a sorc that's going to hit 500 hp and is currently over 300 hp at level 11 ish. He told us about it. Does that make him a braggart? No he was telling us so that we could open our eyes to something new.

Beer,
not so far from it. I'd run with any of your toons, any quest, any time. just my two cents. Flatware

[Disavowed]

Beer,
not so far from it. I'd run with any of your toons, any quest, any time. just my two cents. Flatware

And back at you.

[Disavowed]

Meh, it's prolly just no love for YOUR Ranger! : Even the Noobtards know all about yer gimpness

They may know I'm a gimp but at least I can get in a group. Last time I checked your FVS was soloing non stop. They know your beyond gimp. And don't try to act like you're soloing because you want to. LOL

[Tap4black]

They may know I'm a gimp but at least I can get in a group. Last time I checked your FVS was soloing non stop. They know your beyond gimp. And don't try to act like you're soloing because you want to. LOL

**** right I'm soloin or guild runnin! Those 2WF Elven Rangers with the 6 Con and no fort that get 1 shotted runnin Von 3 are puttin a drain on my funds via rez scrolls. I'm not even talking about the beholders, just regular melee.

Maybe this is the reason Noob rangers are gettin a bad rap, because all the Freetards see the DPS potential but have no clue about making a balanced survivable build (Hint for all you newbtards, a Fort item is your friend as well as your clerics, GET ONE!).

[Disavowed]

**** right I'm soloin or guild runnin! Those 2WF Elven Rangers with the 6 Con and no fort that get 1 shotted runnin Von 3 are puttin a drain on my funds via rez scrolls. I'm not even talking about the beholders, just regular melee.

Maybe this is the reason Noob rangers are gettin a bad rap, because all the Freetards see the DPS potential but have no clue about making a balanced survivable build (Hint for all you newbtards, a Fort item is your friend as well as your clerics, GET ONE!).

Are we a little hostile today my friend? I'm concerned you might blow a gasket. Take a deap breath and calm yourself.

On that note. What level is your FVS? Pacifico is 10 (and has a heavy fort item) and ST. Pauli Girl is 3 (light fort item). I can catch up, or wait up, if you're near one of those levels. I would love to run with you just to hear you yell at the newbs. Just like the old days with Ron. Tell him hello foe me BTW since I never see him or you anymore.

Take care bro.

P.S. Are you doing any fishing or is it too cold?

[Tap4black]

Are we a little hostile today my friend? I'm concerned you might blow a gasket. Take a deap breath and calm yourself.

On that note. What level is your FVS? Pacifico is 10 (and has a heavy fort item) and ST. Pauli Girl is 3 (light fort item). I can catch up, or wait up, if you're near one of those levels. I would love to run with you just to hear you yell at the newbs. Just like the old days with Ron. Tell him hello foe me BTW since I never see him or you anymore.

Take care bro.

P.S. Are you doing any fishing or is it too cold?

I am calm, just a lil short on caffeine this early in the week!

Elly is lvl 10 atm, (9 fvs, 1 mk). Still figuring this primary healer thing out so runnin with *cough* bad players *cough* tends to exacerbate the situation. Guild runs have been smooth though so I can't be THAT bad, lol. Figure once I get 14 FVS levels and can Cometfall everything like Rayna, I'll be set

I wish I was doin some fishin but have been stuck in office more than I like of late. I've worked a few recent Saturdays so will be scheduling the death of some salmon in the near future as soon as the weather/tides look promising. Cold is not an issue as they make peppermint schnapps to keep you warm!

[Aussieee]

You know I am kind of done with trying to change peoples mind about certain class. They will go the way they know till they themself learn otherwise. It's just too much to argue over silly stuff. Get your own lfm going and watch it fill faster. You will be done by the time the are about to start. got declined from tear on my monk cause they already had one. I went and soloed it while they stil had lfm up go figure....

[Raegoul]

I heard that all Bards suck!

[Arkat]

I heard that all Bards suck!

No

[Bbrik]

Yeah people are stupid. I get declined in my wf monk because I'm not dps? At end double the kill count while soloing and others die and I say well I'm no dps didn't want to bother you, same with ranger Iau kite but who is alive in the end? My evasion cleric gets denied because I can't heal? My sp is gimp but when I finish with have 700 hp and same with my brizard. Got declined because they had a barb had a wiz and had a rog didn't want one guy to fill al three spots? "cough" ignorance! Great post btw

[96th_Malice]

Rangers do suck

Archers Rule !!