Does this look terrible? :-oCode:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.10 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 True Neutral Human Male (1 Fighter \ 6 Ranger \ 13 Bard) Hit Points: 218 Spell Points: 338 BAB: 16\16\21\26\26 Fortitude: 13 Reflex: 16 Will: 9 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 17 22 Dexterity 16 17 Constitution 15 15 Intelligence 9 10 Wisdom 8 8 Charisma 8 8 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 7 26 Bluff -1 -1 Concentration 6 25 Diplomacy -1 -1 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle 3 22 Heal -1 -1 Hide 3 3 Intimidate -1 -1 Jump 6 16 Listen -1 -1 Move Silently 3 3 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform 3 22 Repair -1 0 Search -1 0 Spot -1 -1 Swim 3 6 Tumble 4 11 Use Magic Device 3 22 Level 1 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Feat: (Human Bonus) Mobility Level 2 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider Level 3 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 4 (Ranger) Level 5 (Ranger) Level 6 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack Level 7 (Ranger) Level 8 (Bard) Level 9 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Level 10 (Bard) Level 11 (Bard) Level 12 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 13 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Level 14 (Bard) Level 15 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh Level 16 (Bard) Level 17 (Bard) Level 18 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Level 19 (Bard) Level 20 (Bard)
*edit* Looks like I forgot weapon focus: slash, could drop extend and swap the feat's position with toughness, this is more or less my first multiclass build so any feedback would really be appreciated.
Idea I'm working with is the base for a warchanter.
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01-24-2010, 04:44 AM #1Community Member
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multiclassed bard
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01-24-2010, 05:10 AM #2Community Member
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Originally Posted by jacob6
Not the best level split - you miss out on a lot of bard goodies (not saying your build won't work - just informing you).
Really, a bard is about songs. That's what people want before whatever else you bring.
Level 14 - Your inspire courage improves. Drop the level of fighter.
Level 15 - You get the last song buff - inspire heroics (+4 AC). Pretty useful. I would consider this the minimum level to be a considered a 'fully functional bard'. This now eats into your concept, because you would have to drop Ranger levels.
Level 16 - Level 6 Spells - not important for your build.
Level 18 - Future proofing against PrEs. Not as important with reincarnate options coming out.
Level 20 - Last boosts to songs.
So with that info, either go with your build, or change it as you see fit.
One last thing. I might have missed it, but I didn't see weapon focus in there. You need it to qualify for the warchanter PrE - a must really. I would also try to work extend in earlier, but it might not be possible.
Good luck
Good luck!Last edited by BoBoDaClown; 01-24-2010 at 05:12 AM.
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01-24-2010, 05:12 AM #3Community Member
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your final build is missing
You are short on songs with this. When you multil class a bard, your min level bard to be effective is 15.
With only 11 lvs of bard, you are a very weak warchanter, that is light on the 'chanting' part.
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01-24-2010, 05:15 AM #4Community Member
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If you are going to multi class a bard, roll whatever class you wanted to mix with bard and invite a 20 bard to your party.
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01-24-2010, 05:21 AM #5Community Member
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As far as songs go, I only see a +1 attack difference between this toon and say a 20 spellslinger/virtuoso, is it really that bad?
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01-24-2010, 05:31 AM #6Community Member
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Your missing out on another plus 2 to attack and damage and your songs dont last as long. It may not appear as big a deal. But in long drag out fights like raids that extra plus 2 to damage and to hit is a big deal. If you are just building this to try and solo easy quests knock yourself out. But if you want to build a bard then you are building a support type character. I would advise exploring ways to max out your own personal dps by staying pure bard.
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01-24-2010, 05:31 AM #7Community Member
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Well, you haven't qualified for warchanter, so you are 2 down compared to a Spellsinger, as well as their 10% sp reduction.. You are then even further back from a 20 WC. You are also missing the AC song. Originally Posted by jacob6
But you would still offer some thing to most groups. Maybe elite raids people would miss you out.Server: Thelanis
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01-24-2010, 05:37 AM #8Community Member
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Assuming I drop extend for wf:slash, I would be 3 attack / 2 damage down from a 20 wc
If I dropped the fighter level for a bard level I would lose the haste boost, but gain the +1attack/damage from the next increase from inspire courage, if I take ac song then yeah I might as well scrap the idea all together..
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