Guilds... Why?

**Magitu** · 01-21-2010, 12:32 AM

Most guilds here are nothing but a shared friendlist... but why should we need such thing in this game... We dont need leaders or officials to make a group of freinds. In fact in the real life leadership exists but you dont put a banner over his head and it changes all the time acording to what we are doing... so..

WHY should we do such thing?

I meant if you have reason like some among them: thats ok, but... If you are willing to put together a group of friends, thouse "leader" and "official" titles are going to do nothing but be in the middle.

I wish there were less wolves and more humans around.

**Atenhotep** · 01-21-2010, 01:36 AM

It's the Hivemind mentality. Its Us vs Them. The trouble is that familiarity breeds mediocrity and those in the hive will ultimately insulate themselves to such a degree that they begin to believe their own press releases. We see this with politicians, celebrities, any tight nit group and this results in the ultimate decline of said group until one day they realize Rome has burnt to the ground.

I also like tacos but not the crunchy shells, the soft shells. Mmmm. Tacos.

**Lawrence_V._Sullivan** · 01-21-2010, 01:49 AM

well, if your guild is such that the Leader is just the one that promotes others, and is basically another person to hang out with then you shouldnt have a problem. its when a leader is trying to over promote, and over lead a guild that it goes bad. a group of friends that you can keep track of is a good thing, and if you dont like the guild mentality.....create a channel where all of your friends can get in touch with youand go for groups.

**MissErres** · 01-21-2010, 02:00 AM

Example:

Chat channel A has 10 people on from 6 different guilds.
Chat channel B has 30 people on from 10 different guilds.

Advertise in both channels and guild chat: Anyone wanna Shroud.

6 people reply: PSI Shroud.
5 spots open

PUG?? I'd rather /wrists

Players 1-7 are part of 4 different guilds. They all ask guildmates if anyone wants to join. Raid group fills, all players that know someone in group. No pugging, usually means a nice smooth run.

Guilds make for a better gaming experience in my opinion. Add them to the use of chat channels and your "friend" resource is multiplied 10 fold (or better).

**Halo_572** · 01-21-2010, 03:32 AM

I started my (one man) guild to try to attract other players that wanted to play my very niche type of permadeath. Mostly to be able to party up with people when doing harder or higher difficulty quests. Not that that has worked, so it still exists but with just me.

I have to agree that any guild in any game that I have ever played is usually about preening and reinforcing their own lack of self esteem. In an online FPS a lot are ruined by stacking of one side with a clan.

What does irritate me are the pointless public posts in MyDDO. One is spamming with 'guild structure' posts at the moment and it can have no interest to anyone but the guild members. Who then give the posts 5 stars. ??

My guild is a chaotic one, it would have a structure of sorts but few rules and only then regarding resurrection, shrines, dying and buying items. What the other players did when I wasn't around is not my concern nor mine theirs. It is why I couldn't join a normal guild, far too anal with their rules and regulations.

But then if this menatility wasn't prevalent in the human race then Facebook and Twitter wouldn't exist, even though I have no idea why they actually do.

**Lleren** · 01-21-2010, 04:58 AM

Guilds have many purposes.
Most of these purposes do boil down to social reasons, this is a mmorpg, it is a social game.

A sense of belonging to something greater to oneself.
Something to give loyalty to.
A sorting device by type of play, and types of social interaction enjoyed.
A statement that I have agreed to work with this group of people for mutual advancement.
Team name helps with group identification
Advertisement for your group of players to find likeminded players.
Scheduling purposes
Training of new recruits to the groups standards

Many of these do boil down to 'my gang" or "pack" or "tribe" ...but so does pretty much any form of social interaction.

With thought out guidelines, policies and screening of applicants. A guild can last till the end of the game it was created in, and beyond. Many do exist that long, quite a few move from game to game with each other.

**Quietstorm** · 01-21-2010, 08:25 AM

I think you are missing the point, or have been soured....

I belong to a guild of 6 people, and have been in the largest guild on the server as an officer, the truth is the guild really just allows you to connect quickly with like-minded people.

We use a series of 3 chat channels and have associations with several others guilds in order to raid. The main purpose is to run with people that play the way we like to play. We have the advantage of always having experienced players and friends that we have played with for years. We know that if people join one of the guilds we run with that they are probably like minded people with similar play styles.

A guild also allows to express yourself freely. We can say ANYTHING in guild chat. We are all friends and we are all officers. We rarely if ever recruit unless it is someone we know REALLY well and have run with A LOT.

The truth is you dont NEED a guild but its a nice benefit. Getting on at night and BS'ing with friends without the constraints of politics makes the game great.

Can you create this environment for yourself? Yes. Will you? doubtful. You need to change the way you look at guilds and join a guild that has similar values to you. We never really have a problem accomplishing anything in game and we always have a good time doing it. We open spots for pugs if we need to fill spots, so we're not really elitists. People that can play abd bust balls are always welcome back.

Just my 2 cp. Guilds really make this game worth playing over a long period of time but you need to cultivate your own culture.

**Chai** · 01-21-2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Atenhotep

It's the Hivemind mentality. Its Us vs Them. The trouble is that familiarity breeds mediocrity and those in the hive will ultimately insulate themselves to such a degree that they begin to believe their own press releases. We see this with politicians, celebrities, any tight nit group and this results in the ultimate decline of said group until one day they realize Rome has burnt to the ground.

I also like tacos but not the crunchy shells, the soft shells. Mmmm. Tacos.

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**Chai** · 01-21-2010, 08:48 AM

Yus!!!!!