Reincarnation Summary

[Angar]

I was browsing here, trying to find basic information on the various reincarnations, and everything I read seemed to assume I understood the basics in some form or another, so it took me some time to get everything straight. I don't participate in Lamannia, so I won't be doing this until it goes live, but I figured it might be nice for regular players looking for answers to find them all in one thread. This is not intended as a guide for people familiar with Reincarnation, but rather to inform those who have heard about it and are wondering what it is all about. If there is a thread like this already that actually gives specifics on each, I apologize, I didn't find one with all the info and had to piece it together from various threads. Please correct me if any of my info is wrong.

There are 3 basic types of Reincarnation, True, Greater, and Lesser. On top of this, Greater and Lesser have 2 alternate options each. Here are the basics:

True Reincarnation: This is the type that is currently active on live servers as of this post. This involves buying a True Druidic Heart either with points in the store or with Epic raid tokens. When you True Reincarnate (TR for short), you start over at level 1, losing all your experience points, favor, quest flags, etc. You have to start at level 1 and cannot take advantage of Veteran status. You will gain extra abilities based on your previous class, and some extra feats and enhancements will be available to enhance this. You get fancy graphics around your name and your character will be slightly bigger than before. You can respec everything except your name and sex. Experience is elevated, so it will take approximately 50% longer to level to 20. You HAVE to be level 20 to do this. You can TR multiple times (3 is the limit right now, but there is a completionist feat out there already, suggesting it will be possible to TR upwards of 27 times, 3 per class).

Greater Reincarnation (GR for short): You can Greater Reincarnate at any level, it only requires a Greater Druidic Heart which must be bought from the store. Greater Reincarnation will upgrade a 28 point build to a 32 point build, so if you are already a 32 point build, you will not need to do a GR, but rather a Lesser reincarnation instead. Drow are already 32 point builds (4 points are locked into stats already), so you do not have this option with Drow either. With GR, you get to re-spec your character from scratch, starting with appearance, then choosing your stat points, and finally choosing each level, skill points, feats, etc. You cannot change race, alignment, or name. You build each level until you are back to your original level. You are not changing your class with GR, but you do have some options for changing 1 or 3 class levels, which can be done multiple times. You keep all your xp, favor, quest flags, items, and any tomes you used will get applied at the minimum level (ie level 3 for +1, level 7 for +2, level 11 for +3, etc).

GR+1 or +3: With a +1 or +3, you can change 1 or 3 classes respectively during the GR process. For every level, you have an associated class, and each level that you change the class from what you previously had counts as a class change. I will give a couple examples to clarify this:
1) You have a ftr2/wiz18 you want to change to rog2/wiz18. You originally started with wizard and added your fighter levels at 4 and 11. This time you want to start with rogue the first level, so you are changing your first level from wiz to rogue. That is your first change. You take levels 2 and 3 as wiz, which is not a change. At 4 you take wiz, which is a change from your previous fighter, leaving you with only 1 more change. You would need to take your second level of rogue at 11, changing the fighter level to rogue, and leaving the rest as wiz. If you took rogue at level 1 and 2 during the reincarnation process, you would only be able to change 1 level of fighter to wiz, and end up with a wiz17/rog2/ftr1.
2) You have a pure wizard you want to change to a wiz18/rog2. You would likely start with rogue at level 1 for the skill points, counting as one of your changes, then add the other level at any point before 20, counting as your second change.

At this time, there is no way to start over a GR or LR at any point, so if you forget which levels you took a class, you better guess well or you may have to wait a week and spend more points to try again.

Note: You CAN completely swap a class, but a level 20 wiz would take 7 weeks, one GR+3, and 6 LR+3's, costing just over $100 in points.

Lesser Reincarnation: Lesser Reincarnation is just like Greater Reincarnation, only you don't upgrade from 28 pt to 32 point. If you are already 32 point or a Drow, you can't use Greater and only have the option of using Lesser, but if you are 28 pt and use a Lesser Reincarnation, you will remain a 28 pt build. There are +1 and +3 Lesser Druidic Hearts available for swapping classes, and it works exactly the way the GR+1 and +3 does.

Prices as of now will be:
Lesser heart of wood = 895tp
+1 Lesser heart of wood = 1195tp
True heart of wood = 1295tp
+3 Lesser heart of wood = 1395tp
Greater heart of wood = 1495tp
+1 Greater heart of wood = 1795tp
+3 Greater heart of wood = 1995tp (Still not sure on this)

So, for example, if you have a level 15 wizard and you read about the new pale master and only want to respec a bunch of feats and maybe move some points from Dex into Con, you would only need a Lesser Druidic Heart of Wood.

If, on the other hand, you have a 19 Pally, 1 Cleric that you want to change from a 28 pt build to a 32 point pure Pally, you would use a +1 Greater Druidic Heart of Wood, to upgrade from 28 to 32 and to change 1 class level.

So, why would you choose to reincarnate at all? Here are some examples:
1) You thought adding a level of fighter to your sorc would be great - drop a firewall, put on some heavy armor and a shield and intimidate to draw the mobs in while you sit there taking it. That is, until you realized it takes time to get the armor on, etc, etc.. Do a +1 Lesser Reincarnation to fix that one bad level.
2) You have a 28 pt build and want to update it to 32 pt, but don't want to go through 20 levels again. Do a Greater Reincarnation for the extra 4 points.
3) You have a 28 pt Fighter that you specced for DPS, adding some rogue levels for sneak attack bonus and evasion (back when it worked with mithril FP). Now you want an intimitank, but you have low Con and didn't put many points to intimidate. Do a +3 Greater Reincarnation to get your 32 pts, fix your stats, change your 3 rogue levels to fighter, speccing for intimidation and tanking.
4) You have 6 level 20 toons, all maxed on greensteel, and have played every class at least 2 times in the past. True Reincarnation gives you a unique way to start from scratch, with an added challenge, and some unique abilities that will give you an edge at the higher levels.
5) You have a ftr6/rog8 that you haven't played since you learned how to make a proper character, but you are tired of rolling new characters and really want a pure rogue on your account. A +3 Greater Reincarnation will get you started, upping the build to 32 points and swapping 3 of the fighter levels for rogue levels. A week later, follow it up with a +3 Lesser Reincarnation to finish the character and you now have a level 14 Rogue without having to grind out all those 1-10 quests that you have grown bored with.

I hope this thread helps for those people just looking for details on what Reincarnation is all about.

[kaelis]

Prices as of now will be:
Lesser heart of wood = 895tp
+1 Lesser heart of wood = 1195tp
True heart of wood = 1295tp
+3 Lesser heart of wood = 1395tp
Greater heart of wood = 1495tp
+1 Greater heart of wood = 1795tp
+3 Greater heart of wood = 2495tp (Not sure on this)

...I hope these are tweaked or I will be a sad panda. I will tr anyone to fix then (thus gaining a boost for my points) before i spend MORE to just swap a level or 3 around etc..

[Lorien_the_First_One]

...I hope these are tweaked or I will be a sad panda. I will tr anyone to fix then (thus gaining a boost for my points) before i spend MORE to just swap a level or 3 around etc..

I think that's their plan... This forces you to spend more time on that one character, a voluntary grind.

[Cripey]

I was browsing here, trying to find basic information on the various reincarnations, and everything I read seemed to assume I understood the basics in some form or another, so it took me some time to get everything straight. I don't participate in Lamannia, so I won't be doing this until it goes live, but I figured it might be nice for regular players looking for answers to find them all in one thread. This is not intended as a guide for people familiar with Reincarnation, but rather to inform those who have heard about it and are wondering what it is all about. If there is a thread like this already that actually gives specifics on each, I apologize, I didn't find one with all the info and had to piece it together from various threads. Please correct me if any of my info is wrong.

There are 3 basic types of Reincarnation, True, Greater, and Lesser. On top of this, Greater and Lesser have 2 alternate options each. Here are the basics:

True Reincarnation: This is the type that is currently active on live servers as of this post. This involves buying a True Druidic Heart either with points in the store or with Epic raid tokens. When you True Reincarnate (TR for short), you start over at level 1, losing all your experience points, favor, quest flags, etc. You have to start at level 1 and cannot take advantage of Veteran status. You will gain extra abilities based on your previous class, and some extra feats and enhancements will be available to enhance this. You get fancy graphics around your name and your character will be slightly bigger than before. You can respec everything except your race and your name. Experience is elevated, so it will take approximately 50% longer to level to 20. You HAVE to be level 20 to do this. You can TR multiple times (3 is the limit right now, but there is a completionist feat out there already, suggesting it will be possible to TR upwards of 27 times, 3 per class).

Greater Reincarnation (GR for short): You can Greater Reincarnate at any level, it only requires a Greater Druidic Heart which must be bought from the store. Greater Reincarnation will upgrade a 28 point build to a 32 point build, so if you are already a 32 point build, you will not need to do a GR, but rather a Lesser reincarnation instead. Drow are already 32 point builds (4 points are locked into stats already), so you do not have this option with Drow either. With GR, you get to re-spec your character from scratch, starting with appearance, then choosing your stat points, and finally choosing each level, skill points, feats, etc. You cannot change race, alignment, or name. You build each level until you are back to your original level. You are not changing your class with GR, but you do have some options for changing 1 or 3 class levels, which can be done multiple times. You keep all your xp, favor, quest flags, items, and tomes get applied at the level you originally applied them when levelling your character originally.

GR+1 or +3: With a +1 or +3, you can change 1 or 3 classes respectively during the GR process. For every level, you have an associated class, and each level that you change the class from what you previously had counts as a class change. I will give a couple examples to clarify this:
1) You have a ftr2/wiz18 you want to change to rog2/wiz18. You originally started with wizard and added your fighter levels at 4 and 11. This time you want to start with rogue the first level, so you are changing your first level from wiz to rogue. That is your first change. You take levels 2 and 3 as wiz, which is not a change. At 4 you take wiz, which is a change from your previous fighter, leaving you with only 1 more change. You would need to take your second level of rogue at 11, changing the fighter level to rogue, and leaving the rest as wiz. If you took rogue at level 1 and 2 during the reincarnation process, you would only be able to change 1 level of fighter to wiz, and end up with a wiz17/rog2/ftr1.
2) You have a pure wizard you want to change to a wiz18/rog2. You would likely start with rogue at level 1 for the skill points, counting as one of your changes, then add the other level at any point before 20, counting as your second change.

At this time, there is no way to start over a GR or LR at any point, so if you forget which levels you took a class, you better guess well or you may have to wait a week and spend more points to try again.

Note: You CAN completely swap a class, but a level 20 wiz would take 7 weeks, one GR+3, and 6 LR+3's, costing just over $100 in points.

Lesser Reincarnation: Lesser Reincarnation is just like Greater Reincarnation, only you don't upgrade from 28 pt to 32 point. If you are already 32 point or a Drow, you can't use Greater and only have the option of using Lesser, but if you are 28 pt and use a Lesser Reincarnation, you will remain a 28 pt build. There are +1 and +3 Lesser Druidic Hearts available for swapping classes, and it works exactly the way the GR+1 and +3 does.

Prices as of now will be:
Lesser heart of wood = 895tp
+1 Lesser heart of wood = 1195tp
True heart of wood = 1295tp
+3 Lesser heart of wood = 1395tp
Greater heart of wood = 1495tp
+1 Greater heart of wood = 1795tp
+3 Greater heart of wood = 2495tp (Not sure on this)

So, for example, if you have a level 15 wizard and you read about the new pale master and only want to respec a bunch of feats and maybe move some points from Dex into Con, you would only need a Lesser Druidic Heart of Wood.

If, on the other hand, you have a 19 Pally, 1 Cleric that you want to change from a 28 pt build to a 32 point pure Pally, you would use a +1 Greater Druidic Heart of Wood, to upgrade from 28 to 32 and to change 1 class level.

I hope this helps for those people just looking for details on what Reincarnation is all about.

Note - on True Reincarnation you can re spec your race.

[Hydro]

Note - on True Reincarnation you can re spec your race.

And you cant change your sex...

[Girlbrush]

+3 Greater heart of wood = 2495tp (Not sure on this)

Where did you get this figure from? The last time I checked it was 1995tp.

[TechNoFear]

tomes get applied at the level you originally applied them when levelling your character originally.

Tomes get applied at the tomes min level (ie +1 at 3rd, +2 at 7th etc) and 'grow' in effect.

If you ate a +3 tome (at any level) you will get +1 at 3rd, +2 at 7th and +3 at 11th. (this is how it worked for me on Lama a week ago)

[Angar]

Fixed the stuff you guys brought up. Thanks!