Question: Tier-3 of Lightning II 2-hander

[justagame]

Have a KOTC THF paladin, and am getting close to being able to craft the third tier of a lightning II falchion. (Went for LitII because holy sword bypasses boss DR much like Min II). Took holy, then shocking burst.

So my question is what would you recommend for the 3rd tier?

Major options:

+4 insight AC. Even all geared out, the best this would do is turn a 42 AC into a 46 – would that be relevant against even trash mobs?

Shocking blast. More dps is always better, but a 5% chance of an extra 4d6 damage doesn’t sound like all that much.

+2 CHA. Would give +1 to saves and +20 to each LOH. Since it’s a 2-hander, would obviously be of no use trying to UMD scrolls.

+2 DEX. +1 to reflex saves and balance. Seems dominated by the CHA option, which would give +1 to all saves.

[Nyvn]

The AC isn't enough to help you. The saves are meh on a paladin; so go for Shocking blast.

[redraider]

Shocking blast all the way. Your AC is negligable. On a greatsword the crit range is 19-20 and 17-20 assuming you have improved crit -slashing. You do have imp-crit slashing don't you?

Thats makes it a 20% chance to burst. Well worth it.

[justagame]

Shocking blast all the way. Your AC is negligable. On a greatsword the crit range is 19-20 and 17-20 assuming you have improved crit -slashing. You do have imp-crit slashing don't you?

Thats makes it a 20% chance to burst. Well worth it.

Well yes, I have IC: slash (for a crit range of 15-20 on a falchion), but I was asking about shock blast (4d6, which only procs on 20), as opposed to shocking burst (procs on crits) which I already have on tier-2 of the weapon.

[Thelmallen]

Well yes, I have IC: slash (for a crit range of 15-20 on a falchion), but I was asking about shock blast (4d6, which only procs on 20), as opposed to shocking burst (procs on crits) which I already have on tier-2 of the weapon.

Go for the DPS; you won't be disappointed. The 4 points of AC aren't going to make a difference for content past the desert and you don't need the help with the saves.

[justagame]

Thanks for the input -- it's hard not to like the idea of doing more damage.

[Thelmallen]

Thanks for the input -- it's hard not to like the idea of doing more damage.

Well, if you like more damage, those 600hp lightning strikes will make your eyes light up!

[SimVerg]

Well yes, I have IC: slash (for a crit range of 15-20 on a falchion), but I was asking about shock blast (4d6, which only procs on 20), as opposed to shocking burst (procs on crits) which I already have on tier-2 of the weapon.

Elemental Blast effects add xd10 on crit(where x is your crit mult) + 4d6 on 20.

[justagame]

Elemental Blast effects add xd10 on crit(where x is your crit mult) + 4d6 on 20.

Wow, I truly didn't know this -- it wasn't listed in the planner I saw, but just now noticed it online. That pretty much makes it a no-brainer decision.

[Daigaioh]

I have that on my pally. as a greatsword and with shocking blast.. it's well worth the effort.
even more so once you get a bloodstone.

[whomhead]

Took holy, then shocking burst.

I was looking at the greensteel upgrades, and was wondering why you chose to go with Holy over Shock as the first enhancement? The 3X Air weapon has Haste clicky and Air Guard, which seems really nice when compared to Chain Lightning clicky + occasional blast of lightning damage, to me. Of course my highest toon is level 12, so there's a lot I don't know.

[Nyvn]

I was looking at the greensteel upgrades, and was wondering why you chose to go with Holy over Shock as the first enhancement? The 3X Air weapon has Haste clicky and Air Guard, which seems really nice when compared to Chain Lightning clicky + occasional blast of lightning damage, to me. Of course my highest toon is level 12, so there's a lot I don't know.

Because Good > Air > Air/Good, a double tier 3 shard, gives a lighting strike proc, 500-600 damage.

[whomhead]

Well, that is a LOT of damage. That sounds highly worthwhile.

[Thelmallen]

Well, that is a LOT of damage. That sounds highly worthwhile.

That and mineral II are the sole reason that good DPS weapon pulls are largely a thing of the past (discounting the exceedingly rare ones like holyburst silver of GEOB and such).

[AylinIsAwesome]

Because Good > Air > Air/Good, a double tier 3 shard, gives a lighting strike proc, 500-600 damage.

Do you know what the rate this proc is?

[Arkat]

Do you know what the rate this proc is?

Around 2%

Yes...2%

For a Lightning II Hvy Repeater that's not too bad. It's kinda fun actually.

[AylinIsAwesome]

Around 2%

Yes...2%

For a Lightning II Hvy Repeater that's not too bad. It's kinda fun actually.

Hehehe, I bet it is...


So if I used two lightning 2 rapiers on my Paladin, would each rapier have a chance to proc, or is it 2% on all attacks as long as I'm holding at least one, regardless of if I'm holding a second?

[Matuse]

The other reason to go Lightning over 3xAir is that the addition of Holy gives the weapon /Good for bypassing damage reduction, which a 3xAir weapon will not do.

[Spookyaction]

[QUOTE=justagame;2695866] (Went for LitII because holy sword bypasses boss DR much like Min II).


I'm curious about this statement. Does holy sword bypass dr for Devils too cause I thought being cold iron it was only good for demons.

To be clear im talking about raid bosses.

[AylinIsAwesome]

[QUOTE=Spookyaction;2702645]

(Went for LitII because holy sword bypasses boss DR much like Min II).


I'm curious about this statement. Does holy sword bypass dr for Devils too cause I thought being cold iron it was only good for demons.

To be clear im talking about raid bosses.

Holy Sword is Cold Iron, Silver and Byeshk.