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    Default Is it asking too much?

    Why can't people carry the basic pots such as lesser restore, blindness, disease, and poison removal, etc.

    How many times have you seen this.

    Player X: I'm blind cleric can you fix this.

    Me: They have pots for that you should always carry them. That's a must carry. The cleric shouldn't have to use his SP on that when you can take care of it on your own.

    X: I have blindness goggles so I have no need to get or carry blindness pots.

    Me: So why do you need to have the cleric remove you're blindness?

    X: Because I took them off for (insert excuse here).

    Me: So there is a reason to carry blindness pots.

    X: No I have goggles for that I'm not wasting my money on pots.


    The funny thing is on my cleric I usually don't carry those spells I carry the pots or wands and use them on said person. So if I can buy those pots and use them on said person why can't they? This p!sses me of to no end. If you're new and can't afford it I can see the problem.

    At the low levels this can be very expensive for a new person. When I roll a new toon and send him pots it's usually to the tune of about 150K GP, so I see where that would kill a newb. But when we're running in the vale doing slayer as everyone is going to different areas killing things. That's a way different story.

    There is no reason by the time a person is level 10 that they can't carry pots to cure ailments.

    OK rant over.

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    To be sure, carrying potions (of whatever variety) is apparently asking too much. For a time, frustrated with no one being willing to run Cursed Crypt with my Cleric, I took Restoration out of my spell book, but the other clerics still kept it and refused to play along while we made our way through the Subterrane.

    These days, unless there are guildies in the raid, I won't join a Shroud run dominated by Warforged Fighters and Barbarians. They seem to make it a point of pride to cost me materials. Similarly, any Shroud run looking for 'tanks' that excludes rangers and paladins will never be viewed favorably by my Cleric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithran View Post
    To be sure, carrying potions (of whatever variety) is apparently asking too much. For a time, frustrated with no one being willing to run Cursed Crypt with my Cleric, I took Restoration out of my spell book, but the other clerics still kept it and refused to play along while we made our way through the Subterrane.

    These days, unless there are guildies in the raid, I won't join a Shroud run dominated by Warforged Fighters and Barbarians. They seem to make it a point of pride to cost me materials. Similarly, any Shroud run looking for 'tanks' that excludes rangers and paladins will never be viewed favorably by my Cleric.
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    Default Well stated Mithran

    I totally agree with the ranger/pally part of the shroud. I will also pile on that and say. Why are the rangers & pallys not passing out the fire resist and poison resist in the shroud? Especially part 4&5. It would take far less time for cleric/casters to get mana back if they would handle that part of the buffs in part 4&5. In fact they should pretty much always be handing out the resists in any quest as it only costs them 10 SP as opposed to 15 from a caster type and there isn't many other thing they use there SP for other than buffs. You don't see that many rangers stopping melee to heal other people in party. So what else are they using there SP for entangle?

    I Can't tell you how many times I've asked pallys & rangers to pass out energy resists and hear. I don't carry that. Really? WOW!!

    But I will agree with you any LFM omitting ranger/pally I'm leary of.

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    Nothing to see here. Move along.
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    Well, to be honest, there really isn't much of an excuse to not carry blindness pots (unless you have another way to remove it, such as heal). I buy all of my characters 100 when they're born... and I don't think I've ever had to buy more for them. Some of my characters are more than three years old, and I think I've given away more than I've used. So it's not like they're a huge expense... you could probably buy a stack of 20 and have it last you to level 20 and beyond. It's worth the preparation despite the rarity, though... blindness can be a very debilitating thing in DDO.

    I remember once getting blinded in STK and having to have my friends guide me by voice to the shrine... only to have the shrine not remove it (I think they do nowadays). I can't believe they completed the quest, we were all dealing with out of control laughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    Well, to be honest, there really isn't much of an excuse to not carry blindness pots (unless you have another way to remove it, such as heal). I buy all of my characters 100 when they're born... and I don't think I've ever had to buy more for them. Some of my characters are more than three years old, and I think I've given away more than I've used. So it's not like they're a huge expense... you could probably buy a stack of 20 and have it last you to level 20 and beyond. It's worth the preparation despite the rarity, though... blindness can be a very debilitating thing in DDO.

    I remember once getting blinded in STK and having to have my friends guide me by voice to the shrine... only to have the shrine not remove it (I think they do nowadays). I can't believe they completed the quest, we were all dealing with out of control laughter
    I learned my lesson when I was running through Stromvauld's solo for Favor. Sure enough, the last mob blinded me and I looked (and since I'd upgraded from my Blindness removal goggles to Tharne's) and didn't have a wand. I managed to kill her blind and back-clicked for the last body but couldn't find it. Fortunately, Niko logged on and rescued me from having to rerun that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disavowed View Post
    Me: So why do you need to have the cleric remove you're blindness?

    X: Because I took them off for (insert excuse here).

    Me: So there is a reason to carry blindness pots.

    X: No I have goggles for that I'm not wasting my money on pots.

    lol....

    wow that poor misguided nub....

    Tell him to go break boxes for potions if he is really that poor :P

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    last night in the shroud, my bard said he'd get "Freedoms and GH" as those are the main buffs he carries... The party leader said "no, let the clerics get the FoM, they have the pools..."

    I couldn't believe it... and then handed out FoM and GH.

    There are times pots are inconvienent or not really useful, such as a madstoned fighter in the middle of a beating down harry... However, the one big pet peeve of mine is you/we know Harry poisons... So if you tank Harry, why don't you have a Proof against Posion item, even if you only use it there? They come in rings, belts, necklaces, trinkets, etc. etc... surely there is something you could swap for it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disavowed View Post
    Why can't people carry the basic pots such as lesser restore, blindness, disease, and poison removal, etc.

    How many times have you seen this.

    Player X: I'm blind cleric can you fix this.

    Me: They have pots for that you should always carry them. That's a must carry. The cleric shouldn't have to use his SP on that when you can take care of it on your own.

    X: I have blindness goggles so I have no need to get or carry blindness pots.

    Me: So why do you need to have the cleric remove you're blindness?

    X: Because I took them off for (insert excuse here).

    Me: So there is a reason to carry blindness pots.

    X: No I have goggles for that I'm not wasting my money on pots.


    The funny thing is on my cleric I usually don't carry those spells I carry the pots or wands and use them on said person. So if I can buy those pots and use them on said person why can't they? This p!sses me of to no end. If you're new and can't afford it I can see the problem.

    At the low levels this can be very expensive for a new person. When I roll a new toon and send him pots it's usually to the tune of about 150K GP, so I see where that would kill a newb. But when we're running in the vale doing slayer as everyone is going to different areas killing things. That's a way different story.

    There is no reason by the time a person is level 10 that they can't carry pots to cure ailments.

    OK rant over.
    Me: Ok, follow my floaty name to where we can fix your blindness

    Other person: Ok, ty

    {Party} Other player has died

    Me: Whoops, sorry about that, forgot about the spike trap you had to cross to get to the shrine...guess I'll get your stone...

    Not that I have ever or would ever do this /evilgrin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saaluta View Post
    Me: Ok, follow my floaty name to where we can fix your blindness

    Other person: Ok, ty

    {Party} Other player has died

    Me: Whoops, sorry about that, forgot about the spike trap you had to cross to get to the shrine...guess I'll get your stone...

    Not that I have ever or would ever do this /evilgrin

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    You gotz it all wrong Beerguy!

    These freetards are doin you a favor by getting blinded. Now, they can only pike at half speed while they are wandering aimlessly without the rest of the group. As such, the chance of a wipe is reduced by 50% or more as you have 20% of your spellpool for the party members that do not suck. Since they were gonna die anyway, you should have not expected the 10% bonus for a clean run in the first place so get over it

    And yes, I've been having the pleasure if leveling up my 10 FVS of late and I'm also getting tired of all the 6 con dual wielding rangers and no Fort wearing Barbs that I'm pretty much just gonna guild run her til she gets her BB and can move to soloing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lufia View Post
    lol....

    wow that poor misguided nub....

    Tell him to go break boxes for potions if he is really that poor :P
    you can get remove blindness potions for free from collectible turn ins in tangleroot gorge. that same collector can also get you free cure moderate potions and remove curse potions. this is one of the reasons tangleroot gorge is a on my must have adventure pack list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tap4black View Post
    You gotz it all wrong Beerguy!

    These freetards are doin you a favor by getting blinded. Now, they can only pike at half speed while they are wandering aimlessly without the rest of the group. As such, the chance of a wipe is reduced by 50% or more as you have 20% of your spellpool for the party members that do not suck. Since they were gonna die anyway, you should have not expected the 10% bonus for a clean run in the first place so get over it

    And yes, I've been having the pleasure if leveling up my 10 FVS of late and I'm also getting tired of all the 6 con dual wielding rangers and no Fort wearing Barbs that I'm pretty much just gonna guild run her til she gets her BB and can move to soloing.
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    Default Very good point

    Quote Originally Posted by penumbra View Post
    you can get remove blindness potions for free from collectible turn ins in tangleroot gorge. that same collector can also get you free cure moderate potions and remove curse potions. this is one of the reasons tangleroot gorge is a on my must have adventure pack list.
    Too bad not many will take heed and do like you.
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    I don't know I never carry remove blindess,maybe because you don't get blinded so often and I never have any room. Even when I have a clickie on me I can never find it when I need it so forget it, I will go blind or just wait for others to finish quest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    My cleric just stopped pugging period.
    ^^This^^

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    I will say tho, I had a total n00b moment the other day. Logged on my rogue cuz I hadn't played her in forever. Just out killin stuff in the Vale. Check my inventory... no poison pots, no lesser restore pots, no resist wand, and the big kicker... NO HEALING POTS/WANDS/SCROLLS!! I also forgot that I stole her Gird off of her, but atleast she had GH scrolls. DOH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disavowed View Post
    Why can't people carry the basic pots such as lesser restore, blindness, disease, and poison removal, etc.

    I was gonna buy a pot once. But then the party leader said, "Hey don't worry about it. We got a cleric!"


    So I didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disavowed View Post
    Too bad not many will take head and do like you.
    Take heed, man, take heed.

    Taking head is WAAAYYYYY different!
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    Why is it that Beerboy is so concerned about what other people do with their money? Is it so hard to not do anything about their problem? Why can't you just finish the quest and move on?

    Ranting means you are not having any fun. Unless you are merely talking so that others might think how great you are at this game.

    My opinion on the matter is that you need a /HUG from Gornn.

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