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    Quote Originally Posted by Drfirewater79 View Post
    if i go through 150 heal scrolls getting through parts one and two and two remove curse wands and 5 mana pots ... who is gonna cover my expenses when i get banished in part 3?
    if you are spending that at part 1 your group wont make it to part3
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    I heard the stun was room-wide as well. Personally, I'm much more concerned about that than I am a couple people getting banished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drfirewater79 View Post
    You must be joking right?

    why would anyone risk not getting an end reward after spending so much in resources?

    Do you have a cleric?

    if i go through 150 heal scrolls getting through parts one and two and two remove curse wands and 5 mana pots ... who is gonna cover my expenses when i get banished in part 3?


    no one ... and no one is who i would party with if i didnt have boots on my cleric after this change ... items from hound are better then the rings and i get everything i need from the items already there so why would i bother going to TOD at all ... it doesnt make me a better cleric to have two rings .... it doesnt make me a better cleric to have 1 ring ... my time would be better spent in shroud crafting good items with third teir properties rather then just second tier properties.

    If there is a 2% chance of being banished on a cleric .... me as a cleric would not take that chance.


    and Personally if there was a 2% chance that the clerics would be banished .. its practically a 100% chance that when they are ... the rest of the party is gonna wipe in about 10 seconds.
    If I spend more then 50 scrolls for the whole raid, completed or not, I consider it a fail.

    And by now, people SHOULD have learned the BASIC rule to carry curse pots or remove madstone boots for the raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    If I spend more then 50 scrolls for the whole raid, completed or not, I consider it a fail.

    And by now, people SHOULD have learned the BASIC rule to carry curse pots or remove madstone boots for the raid.
    Honestly i never count the amount of scrolls i usually make sure i have 200 before i start anything cause i refuse to buy mana pots.

    I agree often i notice i have my madstone boots on and then "SHooT my bloody boots are on toss me a RC and i wont engage till its done its counter"

    only time i ever failed it (as in no end chest) is when i was new to the mission and/or when team wasnt organized (a must if even one person doesnt know the mission)

    150 scrolls was an exaduration ...

    but cost is not .. I go through alot in part 1 and i go through alot in part 2 ... really part three is the only lax part of the whole thing ... especially if you dont have a warforged tank doing some mad intimidate or what ever they are doing to keep that beast off of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drfirewater79 View Post
    Honestly i never count the amount of scrolls i usually make sure i have 200 before i start anything cause i refuse to buy mana pots.

    I agree often i notice i have my madstone boots on and then "SHooT my bloody boots are on toss me a RC and i wont engage till its done its counter"

    only time i ever failed it (as in no end chest) is when i was new to the mission and/or when team wasnt organized (a must if even one person doesnt know the mission)

    150 scrolls was an exaduration ...

    but cost is not .. I go through alot in part 1 and i go through alot in part 2 ... really part three is the only lax part of the whole thing ... especially if you dont have a warforged tank doing some mad intimidate or what ever they are doing to keep that beast off of me.
    I'm the same way. I won't buy pots, ever, and usually carry a stack of scrolls similar in count. Only ever use scrolls, now, in three to supplement mana. Best run to date is no pots, no scrolls, and a complete with only 400 SP used for healing - other CLR used 600.

    Interesting that our CLR experiences are swapped around.

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    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    If I spend more then 50 scrolls for the whole raid, completed or not, I consider it a fail.

    And by now, people SHOULD have learned the BASIC rule to carry curse pots or remove madstone boots for the raid.
    I spend around 50 scrolls just getting across town to Amarath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyeman View Post
    People do the ToD raid, now?
    every 3 days on all my toons...this raid does get ran alot sarlona...but for me im just trying to get to 20 completion b4 update 3 ...cause i for one am NOT going to grind for boots for all my toons...it took way to long just to get a pair for my tank...unless turbine does the right thing and makes it less of a grind for ingred
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drfirewater79 View Post
    You must be joking right?

    why would anyone risk not getting an end reward after spending so much in resources?

    Do you have a cleric?

    if i go through 150 heal scrolls getting through parts one and two and two remove curse wands and 5 mana pots ... who is gonna cover my expenses when i get banished in part 3?

    no one ... and no one is who i would party with if i didnt have boots on my cleric after this change ... items from hound are better then the rings and i get everything i need from the items already there so why would i bother going to TOD at all ... it doesnt make me a better cleric to have two rings .... it doesnt make me a better cleric to have 1 ring ... my time would be better spent in shroud crafting good items with third teir properties rather then just second tier properties.

    If there is a 2% chance of being banished on a cleric .... me as a cleric would not take that chance.


    and Personally if there was a 2% chance that the clerics would be banished .. its practically a 100% chance that when they are ... the rest of the party is gonna wipe in about 10 seconds.
    if ur going thru that much in pt 1-2 my suggestion is alt f4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    I spend around 50 scrolls just getting across town to Amarath.
    /poke

    Why?

    /death is so much faster.


    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    /poke

    Why?

    /death is so much faster.

    I've been banned from the Soul Train.

    Something about "white and nerdy".

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    Shroud flagging drops a stone that gets crunched and can be used in crafting...
    Why not add a static ingredient to the chest so that it still remains a once off flag run if needed with repeats needed for the specific items. The favour idea already has the potions so wouldn't work that well. I still think having the flag quests loot in the part 2 chest is silly. Set it up so part 2 only has a chance to drop shroud ingredients imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    I've been banned from the Soul Train.

    Something about "white and nerdy".
    And I bet lack of any rhythm....



    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    And I bet lack of any rhythm....

    ... and jump at -40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    And I bet lack of any rhythm....
    Bingo! I thought the laughter meant they liked me though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasczak View Post
    Shroud flagging drops a stone that gets crunched and can be used in crafting...
    Why not add a static ingredient to the chest so that it still remains a once off flag run if needed with repeats needed for the specific items. The favour idea already has the potions so wouldn't work that well. I still think having the flag quests loot in the part 2 chest is silly. Set it up so part 2 only has a chance to drop shroud ingredients imo
    I dont know about that one ... I rather like the chance to get the items you didnt get to grind out from whatever mission in part 2 ... but i do agree it would be nice to see more larges drop there then already do.

    same to be said for part 4 of shroud I think they should change it to always one large same like part 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    Bingo! I thought the laughter meant they liked me though...
    Unless your back is turned.


    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emili View Post
    ... and jump at -40
    Even at a -40, it's still just a 'jump to the left'.

    \m/

    Rock on Dr. Franenfurter!


    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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