Att Dev's: its to easy for kids to buy Points,

[Zippo]

There isn't an option to have your CC removed from the store? That would seem like the easiest option.

As a work around, couldn't you use the PayPal option and just have PayPal not store your info?

While I agree with the sentiment, the above should be an option first for privacy reasons.

As for right now this does seem like the most viable work around. I agree though that other measures need to be taken on Turbines part. Especially in this time when the economy is down and some people are having a hard time even justifying $15 a month for a sub. Fortunately the only risk I have is my own clicking on the button so no one to blame but myself but for others this can be a very real issue.

/signed

[CavernDragon]

discipline your kids, this isn't turbine's problem.

Already done, there accounts have been closed. TV band, Other then this they are very good kids with no others issues, they do good in school, Help others. and I dont think in any of my posts said it was turbine's problem, I asked for a fix to help every parient who would like to reward there kids for being GOOD with a game played with there father...

[Angelus_dead]

They were told no and have had there accounts closed, but the are KIDS....

In case anyone is unfamiliar with the mentality of a child, they can read about the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex. Humans with an undeveloped DLPC lack self control.

[Impaqt]

While I agree that some sort of account controls should be in the game(Along with a monthly accounting and TP Statement of ALL tranactions) I believe that if your kids cannot respect you when you say "Do not buy points" they proboly arent responsible or respectful enough to play DDo unsupervised.

[Kreaper]

They are worse than kids. They are teenagers.

[CavernDragon]

While I agree that some sort of account controls should be in the game(Along with a monthly accounting and TP Statement of ALL tranactions) I believe that if your kids cannot respect you when you say "Do not buy points" they proboly arent responsible or respectful enough to play DDo unsupervised.

Agreed, and so forth Account Close... Do the crime do the time.

Still would be nice to have a PW on the Get more for others.

[Zippo]

They are worse than kids. They are teenagers.

HEH! That made me laugh and cry at the same time. I can laugh now but in just a couple of years my oldest will be a teenager and your point worries me.

[CavernDragon]

They are worse than kids. They are teenagers.

+1 Rep for that... ROFL.. and soooooo True.

[Xtream]

HEH! That made me laugh and cry at the same time. I can laugh now but in just a couple of years my oldest will be a teenager and your point worries me.

Be afraid ... very afraid.

X

[Lorien_the_First_One]

While I agree that some sort of account controls should be in the game(Along with a monthly accounting and TP Statement of ALL tranactions) I believe that if your kids cannot respect you when you say "Do not buy points" they proboly arent responsible or respectful enough to play DDo unsupervised.

That's like saying if you don't trust your employees you shouldn't have them on staff and thus don't need controls. Controls are put in place because it helps people resist temptation. As has already been mentioned, kids have build it weaknesses developmentally, it makes sense to allow some basic controls when they are technically extremely easy to put in place.

[Mellifera]

/signed

I really disliked the fact that the store just automatically uses my account's on file cc. Bare minimum it should require a little more input from the user than a mouse click, otherwise (as the OP found out the hard way) its just asking for abuse.

[Impaqt]

That's like saying if you don't trust your employees you shouldn't have them on staff and thus don't need controls. Controls are put in place because it helps people resist temptation. As has already been mentioned, kids have build it weaknesses developmentally, it makes sense to allow some basic controls when they are technically extremely easy to put in place.

You hire people you dont trust?

[Blackbird]

Game cards may be your best bet or the method whereby you can pay for someone else's account by gift. While a password may be an easy fix, it is very narrow in that it will only serve a small part of the populace and may annoy others and cut down on impulse sales of adults (which is probably profitable). It may be more inconvenient for you to buy game cards or go through the gifting process but it may be your only choice if you want your kids to be VIP but can't trust them not to buy points.

However, if they know you will for sure find out and they will be punished you may find they will be able to resist.

[Ereshkigal]

Turbine -- If you do add more hoops and hurdles for people to jump thru in order to use the DDO store, please make them an option that you can turn off. I like the ability to use the DDO store quickly and with few clicks, and I don't want that time increased forcibly.

Ideally for situations like these it would be nice to have a "satellite account" that is tied to the parent account. The satellite accounts would not be able to manage anything to do with real money but the parent account would be able to ( thru account management ) purchase ddo points, and pay monthly subscriptions for all of the satellite accounts as well as the parent account.

But, I'm sure Turbine will, out of necessity, look at this from the standpoint where they compare the cost of making such changes vs the cost of just doing damage control on the (few?) instances where there are problems to manage.

[Ereshkigal]

You hire people you dont trust?

You've never been betrayed by someone you trusted?

[Tumarek]

If youre browser (or turbines in this case) is setup not to save paypals password you have to enter it every time you want points. Works like this for me and would solve your problem.

[Failedlegend]

It is to easy for kids to buy Points,

The DDO "Get more" needs to have a parental password if there is to be a credit card setup with the account to prevent unauthorized use of this option.

I have had to close all my kids accounts who up till now were VIP members ( and yes they all had there own accounts)

My wife and I controlled the log in password so they could not give it out to anyone but once logged in they had full access to the DDO store and get more points option this is unacceptable, and should have a admin or card holder password.

( I point this out after I see $100.00 taken from my account. Children do not always understand that this took money from a credit card and the concept of the Credit cards and bank cards and why they are not issued to minors.

So my point in all this is please correct this issue so my kids once again can play there ddo.

If you need help with this issue check out Wizards101 they have it setup and in place all ready.

We have been with you from start, please fix this so they can have there VIP accounts back. and no they are not logging in with F2P till this is corrected.

Although it would be a good idea for turbine to add parental controls it really shouldn't have too this game which IIRC is rated either T or M is meant for an older audience and I'm sorry but its not Turbine's responsibility to control your kids..maybe you could...oh I dunno TEACH THEM!!! and if their too young to learn their too young to play this game IMHO.

Note: The world has become a giant wuss factory and from seeing what my sister has to go through to try and discipline her younger kids...I swear she has to read a novel of new things she cant do every week so while I do understand that it is difficult to deal with kids my two older nephews (11 & 13) listen to her just fine and they also play MMOs but the younger ones are always supervised while playing (although their more into the Wii they do play Ruinscape).

[Impaqt]

You've never been betrayed by someone you trusted?

Irrelevant.

If you dont trust someone, You should NOT hire them.

[GeneralDiomedes]

Irrelevant.

If you dont trust someone, You should NOT hire them.

It's not irrelevant. The fact is, a large percentage of the people in this world will do something if they think they can get away with it. Controls exist so work can get done without a high degree of turnover.

[Aspenor]

AS AN ACCOUNT HOLDER, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL CHARGES INCURRED (INCLUDING APPLICABLE TAXES) AND ALL TRANSACTIONS MADE BY YOU AS WELL AS ANY THIRD PARTY (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, YOUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS) WHO USES YOUR ACCOUNT (WITH OR WITHOUT YOUR AUTHORIZATION).

Turbine, in its sole and absolute discretion, may make it possible for you to use to a credit, charge or debit card, prepaid game card, or online payment service, (each referred to herein as “Payment Method”) for your subscription(s) and/or transaction(s) from time to time. Turbine does sell products intended for people ages 13 and up, but it sells them only to adults who can purchase with a permitted Payment Method. IF YOU ARE UNDER OVER 13 BUT UNDER 18, YOU MAY USE THE GAME ONLY WITH INVOLVEMENT OF A PARENT OR GUARDIAN.

Just because Turbine put these statements in an agreement does not mean they are enforceable.

It also does not mean that the OP is off-base. He is 100% correct and any statement otherwise shows ignorance about credit cards, credit card companies, enforceability and children's thought processes.