DDOwiki is back up.

[rimble]

Finally, I'd like to ask you all feedback about the wiki. While the wiki was down, a few other wikis showed up to try to fill the place taken by the DDOwiki and there were discussions about moving the information over to the Compendium. However, the overall reaction by the community was to strongly oppose those other alternatives. Now, this is great news to me because it means you like what we do. However, it does not tell me what you like about the DDOwiki over those alternatives.

I would greatly appreciate if you would take the time to tell us what you like and dislike about the wiki. Both are important. If I don't know what you like, I might end up altering it. If I don't know what you dislike, I can't fix it. If there is something another wiki you know does that you'd like us to do, let us know.

I don't like the Compendium layout. The little scroll box things don't always work right, and the viewable area in the subsections is small. Some of the larger enhancements (like PrEs) sometimes don't even fit in the viewable area of those scroll boxes. I'm a big fan of simple web pages, don't need widgets, scroll boxes, whatever.

I also haven't forgotten the forum purge, and so I have some concerns about what priority preserving the user submitted data would have for them.

Finally, since the Compendium is updated regularly from game files, I just have some concern about user submitted data being overwritten or deleted due to something from their regular update process.

[Borror0]

I don't like the Compendium layout.

What bugs me the most with it is how they either overload a page information.

Well, that and the color red. I'd kill for a cold color to replace the red.

The little scroll box things don't always work right, and the viewable area in the subsections is small.

Got an example of that?

Finally, since the Compendium is updated regularly from game files, I just have some concern about user submitted data being overwritten or deleted due to something from their regular update process.

I had that concern too but it seems Turbine found a way to update their information without overwriting what we wrote. I have absolutely no idea how they managed that (hi, Duwis) but it works. Take a look at the Evasion entry if you need confirmation.

[rimble]

Got an example of that?

Any of the larger PrE entries do it for me:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6332/smallbox.jpg

Just kinda annoying to have to scoot the box up a little, down a little, back and forth while you're doing some build planning.

As for them 'not working right', sometimes the last item on a list is only partially viewable, and you can't scroll down any further. I'll try and remember to update here if I see that again.

I had that concern too but it seems Turbine found a way to update their information without overwriting what we wrote. I have absolutely no idea how they managed that (hi, Duwis) but it works. Take a look at the Evasion entry if you need confirmation.

Yeah, I know...I'm a Unix SysAdmin, and that was just the paranoid in me talking. These sort of global updates from files usually are great, until something goes just a tiny bit off, then they globally screw everything up. The more you fiddle with a data set the more opportunity to mess it up, especially with global 'reload from scratch' type fiddling.

[Borror0]

Any of the larger PrE entries do it for me:

I'm not a fan of how they did the class pages. Too much information, too much fluff that makes pages harder to load.

I much prefer how we do the class pages (though there still is improvements for us in that department).

Yeah, I know...I'm a Unix SysAdmin, and that was just the paranoid in me talking. These sort of global updates from files usually are great, until something goes just a tiny bit off, then they globally screw everything up. The more you fiddle with a data set the more opportunity to mess it up, especially with global 'reload from scratch' type fiddling.

In the worse of all cases, it's still a wiki. The information is still in the History of the page and can be retrieved in seconds.

[LordRavnos]

First of all I love the wiki, thanks for putting so much work into it.

Ok I love the information on the wiki, but one thing that bugs me is the how looking at class or race enhancements each race/class has its own way of showing the information. Example Halflings have it listed by enhancement names, while humans have it listed by level. Meanwhile Dwarfs are by level by have icons and such added as well. I much prefer to have it all the same, preferably by level, or even better is there a way to give us the option to sort by level or name? I love using the wiki to plan a level ahead and it can get diffucult to find out when I have to manually sort through them looking for the level I want. Not something important, just something I would love to see.

[jsaving]

There are two things I really like about ddowiki that don't apply to the official site. One is that the statistical information at ddowiki is more accurate, for example when it gives spell points per level instead of the woefully outdated spell-slot tables at the Compendium. Two is that the strategic and analytical content at ddowiki is much better thought out, for example pointing out that charisma is not the be-all and end-all for the favored soul.

I have nothing against the Compendium and hope it will one day rectify these inadequacies and become a great wiki instead of merely a decent one, but for now at least, ddowiki beats it hands-down -- in my opinion at least.

[RangerOne]

Thanks. I'm not sure I could have lasted much longer.

[TheDoctor]

Thank all that is good and holy.....

[rimble]

As for them 'not working right', sometimes the last item on a list is only partially viewable, and you can't scroll down any further. I'll try and remember to update here if I see that again.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4910/windowcutoff.jpg

It's like the box didn't finish loading (this is Level 7 Wizard spells), there is that spell, and two more after it.

After clicking on it and going to the Symbol of Stunning details page, I hit Back, which took that window back to displaying level 1 spells (also very annoying, all those windows get reloaded back to the first choice all the time). When I hit the level 7 button again after that I could view all the spells.

[Lostara]

Wow.... as a new player, I was starting to think the wiki was a myth! lol

[BigPoppaPump]

I can assure you that DDOwiki was sorely missed by my playing group and I. It was definitely the definitive resource during my start in DDO.

[Sneakee]

Mondo kudos!!!

[Khorban]

I would like to say that having found DDOwiki has made my DDO Experience incredible. Not only have I been able to learn the aspects of the game, but also how to 'build a better char' without the use of the 'cookie cutter builders'. It was an awesome work that was sorely missed.

Thanks for the hard work and 1000 Thanks for working to get it back online.

....There ain't no wiki like the DDOwiki cause the DDOwiki JUST ROCKS....

[Karranor]

Glad you got this beast back up! This is such a great resource and the thought of losing this was not a happy one!

Thanks for all the hard work getting the WIKI back up!

[Socialized]

No apologies necessary! You've given the whole community an incredible service, one that was sorely missed in it's absence. We all owe you a debt of grattitude, and I suspect Turbine does too. Thank you and great work. Keep it up!

[KayJMM]

Everytime i see this thread, i just feel I HAVE to come here and say:

THANKS FOR GETTING DDOWIKI UP AGAIN!!!!

We Loooove you and your awesome wiki! Its my starting page on the browser!

[stockwizard5]

Can we get a (mirror | alt address | whatever) without the word "wiki" in it?

[moorewr]

Can we get a mirror without the word "wiki" in it?

MirrorWIKI MiirrorWIKI on the wall
Who contributes the most of all?

[Borror0]

Can we get a (mirror | alt address | whatever) without the word "wiki" in it?

I'm not sure I understand the request Maels.

[BattleCircle]

Can we get a (mirror | alt address | whatever) without the word "wiki" in it?

not sure why you would need a mirror since there is nothing to download.... Unless (wiki) is blocked at your work place or something.