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    Default Dragonmarks now grant 100% success with scrolls/wands

    So, I noticed last night that my Halfling Dragonmarked Wizard18/Rogue2 no longer rolls for heal scrolls and instead auto succeeds as if he were a cleric of the appropriate level. I also decided to look at Cure serious wounds scrolls and wands, and they too did not imply that they used use magic decide for me to activate, however cure critical wounds did (as it is not emulated by a dragonmark).

    This is an awesome change, even though my halfling wizard has the umd to use cure wands, and heal scrolls.

    One interesting little tidbit though, I'm able to scribe heal, and use up the scroll, only to be told I cannot cast spells from other classes (No, it doesn't appear in my spell book)
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    that sounds like a bug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post
    that sounds like a bug
    if its a bug, why would it only include the spells that my dragonmarks emulate? All other divine spells still require me to roll for umd.
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    probably involved with something they did to put them on seperate timers from the actual spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylos_Moon View Post
    if its a bug, why would it only include the spells that my dragonmarks emulate? All other divine spells still require me to roll for umd.
    Well if its not a bug its a substantial change to the value of those marks...they really should have included such a large change in the release notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post
    Well if its not a bug its a substantial change to the value of those marks...they really should have included such a large change in the release notes.
    indeed it should, and if it is WAI, it's making me wonder if I really should be trading my 3 halfling marks to become a pale master.
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    Interesting. It's a bug, but we'll have to evaluate whether or not it should be a feature of dragonmarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Interesting. It's a bug, but we'll have to evaluate whether or not it should be a feature of dragonmarks.
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    that would be awesome for a no roll on heal scrolls, my wizzy would love it as he took the dragonmarks, but not umd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Interesting. It's a bug, but we'll have to evaluate whether or not it should be a feature of dragonmarks.
    Any chance at getting a look at other racial abilities/enhancements, then? Lotta halflings out there already, not just because their dragonmarks rock, though that's part of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Interesting. It's a bug, but we'll have to evaluate whether or not it should be a feature of dragonmarks.
    I rather like the idea. The healing dragon mark is a large investment in feats. What a way to make it pay off.

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    So just shooting in the dark here but I'm guessing that it's because he has Wizard levels, the feat is introducing those heal enhancements as known spells which are being counted toward success on the scrolls?

    If that's the case then it wouldn't work for a halfling Monk or fighter etc. Can anyone confirm/deny? I no longer have the healing marks on my halfling monk but might reincarnate into them if nobody else can check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Interesting. It's a bug, but we'll have to evaluate whether or not it should be a feature of dragonmarks.
    If you did it, it should probably apply to the other dms with spell like abilities.

    This would open up a whole new market for non-umd self healing halfling melee types...interesting.

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    This bug doesn't occur with the Elven Dragonmarks. Just logged on to Lama and tried four times to cast displacement from a scroll on my pure fighter w/o UMD.
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    I agree, I would love to see this kept.
    I invested in the healing marks for my wizard too
    and this would be a great ability to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Interesting. It's a bug, but we'll have to evaluate whether or not it should be a feature of dragonmarks.

    And likewise for the few other select scrolls the other 'marks emulate, making them a little more desirable?

    That would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbd3rd View Post
    And likewise for the few other select scrolls the other 'marks emulate, making them a little more desirable?

    That would be cool.

    such as Cannith marked characters being able to use reconstruct scrolls with the 3rd tier mark.
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    Interesting.. I'm not sure it's balanced across dragonmarks though. It puts halfling dragonmarks in a completely different world than other dragonmarks. Even somewhat useful dragonmarks like D Door and teleport wouldn't be nearly as cool.

    Not saying it should be fixed... but yeah. Interesting.

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    If this stays, then i think they should review all other dragonmarks and upgrade some of the crappier ones (i.e. all of the other ones) to match the huge benefit this one would give.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Interesting. It's a bug, but we'll have to evaluate whether or not it should be a feature of dragonmarks.
    My vote is to keep it and expand it to the other dragonmarks as well. This would give a dynamic to a lot of the dragonmarks which get ignored and a fun addition to the game. Also looking into the benefits that the other dragonmarks grant would be good. Though the halflings are powerful, and the elves is ok, the dwarven dragonmark is just terrible. But until there is time to revamp some of them, at least exand the scroll usage to all.
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