Pale Master Forms

[Jay203]

i.e. lich form comes with wiz18

wrong, lich form at wiz 12

[Visty]

i.e. lich form comes with wiz18

i thought that too at first and dusted off my old wizard to get him to 20 and get some nice items

but then i double rechecked it and it really is at lvl12, means my wizard goes back into his library (bankchar who holds my tomes) and im thinking about doing such a 13/6/1 build, maybe even chaning my current cleric/wiz for it, either TR or lvl changing

imo the fun factor is huge

[Gol]

Fraps vid of both, wraith first:
http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/n...asterForms.flv

[Visty]

Fraps vid of both, wraith first:
http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/n...asterForms.flv

wooooot, the lich is glowing white

uber

€dit: on another note, wasnt palemaster supposed to get fortification each tier? or get you 100% in the forms?

[Raiderone]

A free self-heal for 240 HP (max+emp) every 5 seconds then? Wow.

NO. You cannot heal yourself but two Pale Masters can heal each other when
in undead form. Save against decreases amount by half.

Enlarge increases the distance of Necrotic Touch.
Maximize, Emp increase damage. Used Heighten, but didn't see any effect.

Extend doesn't increase Undead Form.

Necrotic Touch: Foe, Undead Friend.

[Vhlad]

Fraps vid of both, wraith first:
http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/n...asterForms.flv

Can you reconstruct yourself while in either form ?

[Gol]

Can you reconstruct yourself while in either form ?

Forgot to test, and don't have the Lamannia client installed on my laptop - I can test when I get home from work tonight.

[Razcar]

NO. You cannot heal yourself but two Pale Masters can heal each other when
in undead form. Save against decreases amount by half.

Enlarge increases the distance of Necrotic Touch.
Maximize, Emp increase damage. Used Heighten, but didn't see any effect.

Extend doesn't increase Undead Form.

Necrotic Touch: Foe, Undead Friend.

Ok, thanks. Would be too powerful I suppose (and lessen sales of Store pots ).
The duo-possibility is still cool though.

[Visty]

hmm, does the necrotouch break invisibility?

if not you could summon a mummy, your skells and let those 2 do the quest for you while youre the invis healer
and once the mummy breaks free, use control undead on it

[Xenus_Paradox]

hmm, does the necrotouch break invisibility?

if not you could summon a mummy, your skells and let those 2 do the quest for you while youre the invis healer
and once the mummy breaks free, use control undead on it

You can also use Summon Monster without killing your skellie.

[Xenus_Paradox]

hmm, does the necrotouch break invisibility?

if not you could summon a mummy, your skells and let those 2 do the quest for you while youre the invis healer
and once the mummy breaks free, use control undead on it

You can also use Summon Monster IX without killing your skellie. Can't heal the hezrou, but with the cooldown removed, you can just summon a new one when it dies.

[Dylos_Moon]

Ok, so I threw up an LFM on lamannia with my cleric to find a PM with the forms to try casting harm on them, and it worked.

However, they got a will save.

So harm can be cast on wizards in lich or wraith form, however, you cannot umd harm or self heal via necrotic touch. Here's the reason why: Harm's targets are Foe, Undead Friend, but Heal's targets are Undead Foe, Self, Friend. So in order for a Wizard in Lich/Wraith form to be able to heal themselves via neg energy, neg energy spells must be altered to include Undead Self.

Until then, only the abbot robe will self heal.

[Xenus_Paradox]

Ok, so I threw up an LFM on lamannia with my cleric to find a PM with the forms to try casting harm on them, and it worked.

However, they got a will save.

So harm can be cast on wizards in lich or wraith form, however, you cannot umd harm or self heal via necrotic touch. Here's the reason why: Harm's targets are Foe, Undead Friend, but Heal's targets are Undead Foe, Self, Friend. So in order for a Wizard in Lich/Wraith form to be able to heal themselves via neg energy, neg energy spells must be altered to include Undead Self.

Until then, only the abbot robe will self heal.

Do it, devs. Do it now.

[Gol]

So while in the non-dismissible undead forms, you're completely party-dependent for healing (unless you're a non-WF with the shroud).

AKA, no WF wizard would EVER go into that form and lose self-healing. What a shame.

[WeaselKing]

So while in the non-dismissible undead forms, you're completely party-dependent for healing (unless you're a non-WF with the shroud).

AKA, no WF wizard would EVER go into that form and lose self-healing. What a shame.

So you are saying reconstruct does not work while in wraith/lich form?

[Dylos_Moon]

So while in the non-dismissible undead forms, you're completely party-dependent for healing (unless you're a non-WF with the shroud).

AKA, no WF wizard would EVER go into that form and lose self-healing. What a shame.

Also, keep in mind that other then harm, all single target negative energy spells are touch range. Meaning if you want to be healed by someone else in undead form they either need to use harm, mass inflict, or be right next to you.

[Gol]

So you are saying reconstruct does not work while in wraith/lich form?

Somebody else verified that already, yes.

[Delacroix21]

Can you cast Tensor's transformation in these forms? Might be interesting for the whole "punching Pale Master" inflict wounds combo!

[cyanpill]

Ok, so I threw up an LFM on lamannia with my cleric to find a PM with the forms to try casting harm on them, and it worked.

However, they got a will save.

That'd make UMDing Harm even worse... the dc on the scroll would be what, 16? No one would fail that save... Unless of course they coded it that you can't save against yourself.

Or just code it so you don't save against beneficial effects