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    Wraith form looks cool.

    Kinda wish it was avatar replacement though.
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    Last edited by Raiderone; 01-07-2010 at 09:32 PM.

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    Default This is all pretty beast

    This makes me want to roll a 12/6 Wizzie Rogue Drow or somesuch for roleplay purposes. (Palemaster+Scorpion Wraith? Hecks yeah!)

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    does the lich form alters your appearence too?
    make a screeny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylos_Moon View Post
    yea, he used it on my cleric, on a failed save crit it did over 200 damage.
    Thanks for the help Dylos. Max/empowered hit for almost 240 I think. We think the save was as if it was a lvl 1 spell.

    My wiz was just capped out quickly in order to TR. He didn't have much in the way of top tier items, tomes, or greensteel. This may have just kept him from being TR'ed

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    Necrotic Touch is nice. Gives Pale Master a nice attack that does easy 100hp damage (1d6 per level)
    and heals your summoned skelly...LIKE 5 sec cool down or less
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGP View Post
    I just got both on my wiz 20 Golari

    The wraith info is correct. You also "glide" instead of walking.


    The Lich info +4 con, +4 int (both stack on top of all else)
    +2 DC to Necro

    Chance to heal if hit


    Red eyes and some shadowing shape that is around you.

    The Wraith form LOOKS cooler. The Lich form is killer for DC's, spell points and HP.

    I can be on at 10 pm east on Golari if you would like to see it.
    So you can swap between forms? Can you heal yourself in lich form as well? Are there any armor bonuses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderone View Post
    Necrotic Touch is nice. Gives Pale Master a nice attack that does easy 100hp damage (1d6 per level)
    and heals your summoned skelly...LIKE 5 sec cool down or less
    Or heal yourself with it while in Lich / Wraith forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daehawk View Post
    Or heal yourself with it while in Lich / Wraith forms.
    A free self-heal for 240 HP (max+emp) every 5 seconds then? Wow.
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    this is all assuming you can cast it on yourself, which I doubt
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    now to find a good build for pale master.....

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    If you can't cast it on yourself then a pair of pale wizards could just keep healing eachother for free........scary combo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyjak View Post
    If you can't cast it on yourself then a pair of pale wizards could just keep healing eachother for free........scary combo
    If you can't cast it on yourself, who's to say you can cast it on a party member?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunker View Post
    If you can't cast it on yourself, who's to say you can cast it on a party member?
    you cant dv yourself but you can dv partymembers

    maybe its similar coded, who knows
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    I was thinking it was going to be coded like that since you can cast it on your own skeleton its been reported.

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    of course an obvious one. If negative energy can heal you in lich form. And you can summon arcane casters, negatve energy aura. Does that mean the aura will be a constant self heal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunker View Post
    of course an obvious one. If negative energy can heal you in lich form. And you can summon arcane arcers *** a negatve energy aura. Does that mean the aura will be a constant self heal?
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    Just played with PM tier 3 with both lich and wraith in the new free quest to the right when you enter the 12.

    Can't heal yourself and can't be healed by positive energy when in Lich mode. Couldn't be "harmed" by a party member either. DC on wail or finger get sick.... Very high when in Lich form. Only one summoned undead at a time but you can summon a normal creature without a problem.

    The summoned are CR 6/12/18. The 12 mage was casting firewall and even kept going after I recalled to make a small change. The 18 mage cast sleet storm..... loads of fun at first but better than some pugs. Max/emp necrotic touch was hitting for about 220 damage (or healing on my skelly)

    Very cool to try out. While there was both a decent feat/enhancement requirement, it didn't seem too bad.

    I did not have any abbot gear or other palemaster set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    So you can swap between forms? Can you heal yourself in lich form as well? Are there any armor bonuses?
    Timer and cool down are shared between forms. 3 on, 2 cooldown.

    Healing by pots right now. Not sure how else other than harm wound wand or harm scrolls.

    I don't know on the armor, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGP View Post
    Timer and cool down are shared between forms. 3 on, 2 cooldown.

    Healing by pots right now. Not sure how else other than harm wound wand or harm scrolls.

    I don't know on the armor, sorry.
    Harm/Inflict targets only foes and Undead Friend (huh?!). Probably a change to the spell in the future for that?

    PS: Wonder if there's a WF Wraith/Lich...that would be awesome!

    Also, if you die in undead form, does rezz work? If so, does rezzing return you to human form or the last form you were on?

    Lastly if you're on Death Ward in human form, and you change to wraith/lich form, does that prevent healing via Harm/Inflict?
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