Quote Originally Posted by Junts View Post
since even on elite/epic the heroic surge timers for mobs are 60-90 seconds, the purpose of this change is not to impact me using irresistable dance, or otto's sphere, or even web to immobilize a mob group

Its to deal with tactics like flesh to stoning all the respawning orthons in tower part 3 because its permanent and they can consequently be ignored foreverafter instead of having them respawn every 30-45 seconds or so. That tactic was so powerful that they had to make stoned orthons randomly die after 30 seconds so that more would spawn ... 3 energy drains to stack on 15 negative levels (for -30 to fort saves) ensured that they would never, ordinarly, save out. It trivializes challenge when you use cc this way.
Timers on epic/elite are 30 and 60 seconds. Elite probably won't be very noticeable unless you're soloing, epic eliminates entire branches of strategies for parts of Von 1(cc the gladiators you aren't currently killing),3(any of the massive drow fights or the EE's at the end), and 6.