55 AC at level 14?

[Aziiz]

Hi guys, as my recent join date should point out, I have very little experience playing the game or playing my monk. That being said, I am reincarnated and starting to feel a little competent, but not competent or confident enough to raise the BS flag on someone for making a claim that seems slightly outside the realm of possibility (to me).

So, on to my question: is it possible to have 55 non-raid/party buffed AC at level 14? That same reincarnated monk also claimed he had 320 hit points. I am thinking that the HP might be a stretch also, but I did pass up a toughness feat, and also there seems to be a toughness AP buff I can't currently select because I chose wis or dex (can't remember, probably wis) instead of Constitution for one of my AP increases. Two missed toughness chances doesn't make up the gap between my 230 health and his 320 though. Do items with false life stack?

So, giving him the benefit of the doubt, and granting him a fabulous past life full of ideal/lucky drops in every instance that has something we want, and assuming money isn't an issue for him, is it possible to have those stats on a level 14 reincarnated monk? The only other info I can give you is he is a halfling, and is using dragonmarked feats (at least tier 2, i think, because he healed me to full a couple times).

All this time I have been running around lol'ing at the level appropriate content because the past life monk feat gives our fist damage the next tier up, thinking I was god's latest gift to the monk class--but perhaps there is a lot more I could be doing with my toon if those stats are achievable. I'm currently at 44 AC, and thought myself above average at level 13...---i guess not.

[Twerpp]

If you are giving him the benefit of the doubt why are you here asking us if he is lying?

Yes its completely possible and highly likely that a TR monk has 55 ac and 320 hp.

[Kaervas]

Things that can make up the gap between your HP and AC and the other monk's:

45 HP Greensteel accessory slot
30 HP GFL item
20 HP 'Toughness' item property (eg. Minos Legens)

+3 Dodge AC bonus Chattering Ring
+4 Dodge AC bonus Icy Raiments body slot (also has +4 Deflection AC)
+4 Insight AC on Greensteel item


All quite feasible considering he, too, is reincarnated.

[Aranticus]

halfling, 34 pt

base stats 12/18/14/10/16/8
with +3 tomes 12/21/16/13/19/8
with +3 exp kamas 12/24/16/13/19/8
with +6 items 12/30/22/13/25/8
with enhancements 12/32/22/13/26/8

AC
base 10
size 1
icy with ritual 5
rr armor bracers 7
dex 11
wis 8
centered 3
protection 5
insight 4
dodge 1
chattering 3
barkskin pot 3
shield clickie 4
twf defense 1
combat expertise 5
total: 71

HP
base 84
con 84
toughness 16
feats 30
greater false life 30
minos 20
shroud 45
total: 339

[toughguyjoe]

Lets see.

Level 14 Monk.

base: 10
Dex: 32 (18 base, +6 Item, +2 racial, +2 enhancements, +2 level bumps, +2 tome) +11
Wis: 26 (base 16, +6 Item, +2 tome, +2 enhancements) + 8
Amor Bracers : +6
Icy raiment: +4 Dodge
Halfling: +1 Size
Chattering Ring: +3 Dodge(Dodge stacks)
Shroud Kama: +4 Insight
Ringof Protection +5 : +5 Deflection
Barkskin Potion, Level 5: +3 for Six minutes.

AC: 55.

on a reincarnated toon thats not hard to reach, having all of those items at Min level is really huge.

Drink as haste potion and he goes to 56.

As for the HP...Not really sure. However, a Shroud Item, (+45 HP), and the enhancements will make up for alot of the HP he has over you, plus he is one level higher.

Keep working my friend. You will reach uber AC eventually, just gotta grind the gear!

P.S: If i messed up that AC count anywhere, someone just smack me and make it right ok?


*EDIT*

Look to Aranticus, he made a much better breakdown than I did, I forgot the frickin Centered bonuses, and the static Monk bonuses! DoH!

[Aranticus]

Look to Aranticus, he made a much better breakdown than I did, I forgot the frickin Centered bonuses, and the static Monk bonuses! DoH!

i crunch way too much numbers.... real life beckoning

[Nyvn]

Don't forget you can always check out someone on myddo.com

[Aziiz]

thank you all (except for twerpp) for the replies, they were very informative. especially the one about looking ppl up on myddo.

[Aranticus]

thank you all (except for twerpp) for the replies, they were very informative. especially the one about looking ppl up on myddo.

actually my post would be nastier than twerpp's had he not post his. to actually want to come to the forums to ask about build questions just so you can call someone out is downright despicable on so many levels. if you want to call BS, then have the knowledge and experience to do so. if you cant be sure, then do not even entertain the idea

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[SolarDawning]

Hi guys, as my recent join date should point out, I have very little experience playing the game or playing my monk. That being said, I am reincarnated and starting to feel a little competent, but not competent or confident enough to raise the BS flag on someone for making a claim that seems slightly outside the realm of possibility (to me).

So, on to my question: is it possible to have 55 non-raid/party buffed AC at level 14? That same reincarnated monk also claimed he had 320 hit points. I am thinking that the HP might be a stretch also, but I did pass up a toughness feat, and also there seems to be a toughness AP buff I can't currently select because I chose wis or dex (can't remember, probably wis) instead of Constitution for one of my AP increases. Two missed toughness chances doesn't make up the gap between my 230 health and his 320 though. Do items with false life stack?

So, giving him the benefit of the doubt, and granting him a fabulous past life full of ideal/lucky drops in every instance that has something we want, and assuming money isn't an issue for him, is it possible to have those stats on a level 14 reincarnated monk? The only other info I can give you is he is a halfling, and is using dragonmarked feats (at least tier 2, i think, because he healed me to full a couple times).

All this time I have been running around lol'ing at the level appropriate content because the past life monk feat gives our fist damage the next tier up, thinking I was god's latest gift to the monk class--but perhaps there is a lot more I could be doing with my toon if those stats are achievable. I'm currently at 44 AC, and thought myself above average at level 13...---i guess not.

Hey Aziiz.
That's me whom you played with and are "calling out."
You'll see that MyDDO (http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/elysidia/) puts my current AC at 48. That is without a +wisdom item equipped. That's because I logged out with the Silver Flame Talisman equipped instead. 51 with a +6 wisdom necklace instead, and 56 with Combat Expertise on. Does that make you happy?

*edit*
You'll also notice it puts me at only 312 HP right now.
When we played last night, I had a Dusk Heart equipped, which gave +20 more.
I switched it out for the Silver Flame faith trinket upon acquiring it last night, after we finished Cursed Crypt.

[Dexxaan]

If you are giving him the benefit of the doubt why are you here asking us if he is lying?

Yes its completely possible and highly likely that a TR monk has 55 ac and 320 hp.

actually my post would be nastier than twerpp's had he not post his. to actually want to come to the forums to ask about build questions just so you can call someone out is downright despicable on so many levels. if you want to call BS, then have the knowledge and experience to do so. if you cant be sure, then do not even entertain the idea

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+1 Rep for these two.

[Aziiz]

haha, you guys are making it sound like I was going to breathlessly wait for that guy to log back in and then pester him with tells about how i just learned so and so, so his stats couldn't be true...

I freely admitted I am new to this game, and freely admitted that those stats seemed inflated to me (i've been playing for a month, can you blame me?), which is why I came here to ask the more informed community. Evidently they are not that hard to attain with access to decent gear, but even if you all had replied that those stats were not possible I still wouldn't have gone back to my little halfling friend to confront him--what would be the point? I'm not that peevish.

The ultimate intent behind my original post was I felt a huge gap between where I am and where I could be when I heard his stats, and was looking for a breakdown on how that gap could be possible. So, again I thank those of you that replied with useful information. If you have some problem with the manner in which I presented my question, then I really don't have any response for you, except maybe to chill a little.

Now that I am aware of the myddo.com, I should have no trouble looking at specific gear choices for the next monk I come across that makes me feel vastly inferior.

Again, thank you for the helpful replies.

edit: for spelling

[SolarDawning]

If you want some specific build advice, you're welcome to ask.
You can see that I don't have much in the way of special gear, just an Icy Raiment and Spectral Gloves as the only things of real note. Mostly, it comes down to understanding how the game's rules work, rather than having access to all the best equipment.

That said, I am slightly miffed that instead of asking me in game how I have those AC and HP totals, you come to the forums to ask if it's possible?
Seems a little silly to me. Well, now you see that it is, and I do.

Biggest suggestion I can give: Start with at least 16 constitution. Then a +2 tome will put you to 18, which qualifies you for all the Earth stances and strikes.
They are, by a large margin, the best monk damage attacks. At level 20, your best three strikes for endgame enemies are Earth IV, Earth III, and Wind IV.

[Uska]

Hey Aziiz.
That's me whom you played with and are "calling out."
You'll see that MyDDO (http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/elysidia/) puts my current AC at 48. That is without a +wisdom item equipped. That's because I logged out with the Silver Flame Talisman equipped instead. 51 with a +6 wisdom necklace instead, and 56 with Combat Expertise on. Does that make you happy?

*edit*
You'll also notice it puts me at only 312 HP right now.
When we played last night, I had a Dusk Heart equipped, which gave +20 more.
I switched it out for the Silver Flame faith trinket upon acquiring it last night, after we finished Cursed Crypt.

+1 to you for putting him in his place.

[Aziiz]

+1 to you for putting him in his place.

lolwut? am i getting too uppity? do I need to be "put in my place"?

You guys are reacting to this thread as if I had stolen into elysidia's house and took a **** on his xbox, and then ripped up his kid's crayon drawings on the fridge--before kicking his dog on the way out.

Seriously... what is wrong with you? In my noobish ignorance I suspected some stats I heard were inflated. So I came here to ask, and was provided with some very good information.

I didn't "call him out" by name; for whatever reason he came and identified himself.

Unless I'm missing something here, you people are faulting me because I was incredulous and decided to use the experience in these forums as a resource--a choice I would almost regret except that I am starting to feel laughably contemptuous of replies like the one I quoted here.

Perhaps my original post should have gone something like this:

Dear experienced Monk players,

I am very new to this game, but barely just learned enough that I have a rudimentary idea of the direction I should be building my newly reincarnated monk. Last night I had an enjoyable run with a more experienced monk who when quoting his stats, they seemed so beyond what I thought was possible at our level, led me to suspect he may be embellishing a bit.

So I come to you, humbly asking if you could please explain how a level 14 monk could have 55 ac and 320 hp. Thank you, in advance, for all your informed replies.

Sincerely,

Grasshopper

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I got what I wanted out of this: information. So as tempting as it is to return to this thread to reply to the posts like the one I quoted above, I am going to have to give up the field and let this serve as my final response.

[SolarDawning]

You're right, the responses are a little too negative, and your first post was probably taken in the wrong context. I apologize.
It's good to see that you got some helpful information out of the thread. If you have specific questions, the forums remain a very helpful resource to find answers, and I hope you continue to use them.

[LAWPRE]

1) There may be errors in this post. I am using an older and slower comp as my usual one is "sick" and in the "hospital". So, I can't check my toon or the compend with anything that represents ease.

2) he did state that he/she was new. I would rather that a person check here (BTW if you go to options , you can shrink the screen by unchecking full screen. Then, you can check the forums while still online) than just call BS.

3) my level 4 Monk has an AC between 23 and 36 (see below). So, between more gear, etc. AC 55 should be easy to achieve by 14th.


ADDOR AC 23 AC 36

BASE Dex (16) +3 +3
BASE Wis (16) +3 +3
Dodge +1 +1
AC item +1 +1
Korthos Set +2 +2 (there are two that grant +2 AC)
Dex Gloves +.5 +.5 (or +1 from level)
Wis Item +.5 +.5 (or +1 from level)
Wind Stance +1 +1 (at level 4 raise each stat by 1, So, .5+.5=1
Tome (+1) +1 +1
Bull's Strength Pot +0 +2
Supreme Pot +0 +1 (Supreme Ability Pot from DDO Store - does stack)
Owl's Wisdom +0 +2
Supreme Pot (Store) +0 +1
Barkskin +0 +2 (can be higher)
Shield spell +0 +4
Mage Armor Spell +0 +2 (can be higher)
Shield of Faith +0 +2 (can be higher)


Shield, Shield of Faith, Barkskin and Mage Armor (at least at lower levels) do all stack.

[Aranticus]

lolwut? am i getting too uppity? do I need to be "put in my place"?

You guys are reacting to this thread as if I had stolen into elysidia's house and took a **** on his xbox, and then ripped up his kid's crayon drawings on the fridge--before kicking his dog on the way out.

Seriously... what is wrong with you? In my noobish ignorance I suspected some stats I heard were inflated. So I came here to ask, and was provided with some very good information.

I didn't "call him out" by name; for whatever reason he came and identified himself.

Unless I'm missing something here, you people are faulting me because I was incredulous and decided to use the experience in these forums as a resource--a choice I would almost regret except that I am starting to feel laughably contemptuous of replies like the one I quoted here.

Perhaps my original post should have gone something like this:

Dear experienced Monk players,

I am very new to this game, but barely just learned enough that I have a rudimentary idea of the direction I should be building my newly reincarnated monk. Last night I had an enjoyable run with a more experienced monk who when quoting his stats, they seemed so beyond what I thought was possible at our level, led me to suspect he may be embellishing a bit.

So I come to you, humbly asking if you could please explain how a level 14 monk could have 55 ac and 320 hp. Thank you, in advance, for all your informed replies.

Sincerely,

Grasshopper

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I got what I wanted out of this: information. So as tempting as it is to return to this thread to reply to the posts like the one I quoted above, I am going to have to give up the field and let this serve as my final response.

here is how it would look like if it wasnt inflammatory

Hi guys, as my recent join date should point out, I have very little experience playing the game or playing my monk. That being said, I am reincarnated and starting to feel a little competent.

So, on to my question: is it possible to have 55 non-raid/party buffed AC at level 14? That same reincarnated monk also claimed he had 320 hit points. I did pass up a toughness feat, and also there seems to be a toughness AP buff I can't currently select because I chose wis or dex (can't remember, probably wis) instead of Constitution for one of my AP increases. Two missed toughness chances doesn't make up the gap between my 230 health and his 320 though. Do items with false life stack?

is it possible to have those stats on a level 14 reincarnated monk? The only other info I can give you is he is a halfling, and is using dragonmarked feats (at least tier 2, i think, because he healed me to full a couple times).

All this time I have been running around lol'ing at the level appropriate content because the past life monk feat gives our fist damage the next tier up, thinking I was god's latest gift to the monk class--but perhaps there is a lot more I could be doing with my toon if those stats are achievable. I'm currently at 44 AC, and thought myself above average at level 13...---i guess not.

see the difference?

[Letrii]

I am looking for gear advice to raise AC on my Warforged monk. Should I ask here or make my own thread?

[Auran82]

HP are a funny thing on a reincarnated character, my fighter/paladin went from 220hp at level 10 (8/2 fighter paladin) to 352hp at level 11 due to all the silly items you can wear then.

55ac is not out of the question for a TR at level 14, I think the above character will be sitting at 59 (from memory) at that level, and that's without the dodge feat, no chattering ring, with kensai instead of stalwart defender and completely unbuffed.