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    Default Why is their a fighter class?

    I always end up tanking lol! My ac is always higher then the tank too. I guesss things will change once I get past level 13. I am having a blast with my monk.

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    Your AC will be higher, but your dps will be significantly less then the equally geared fighter

    Monks, like all melee classes have their pros and cons.... you know that
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    Most fighters in this game are not "Tanks"
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    LOL let me put on my +5 icy burst hw of bleeding and turn on wind stance with flurry of blows and tanks can KMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantul View Post
    I always end up tanking lol! My ac is always higher then the tank too. I guesss things will change once I get past level 13. I am having a blast with my monk.
    Fighter =/= Tank.

    Tank = ability to get kicked in the face repeatedly and still keep going. So if you have high enough HP or AC or DR you are a tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantul View Post
    I always end up tanking lol! My ac is always higher then the tank too. I guesss things will change once I get past level 13. I am having a blast with my monk.
    low end content does not compare to the content starting in gianthold and beyond. A rogue with a shield or even a wizard with some hp and a shield could easily tank before then. After gianthold tanking becomes more than just AC. Glad your having fun but for a true test of tanking ability try it in gianthold................ and remember the value is a nice leap of difficulty after that.
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    not all true, at lower end you will have low amount of dps but, at high end will out dps most fight with your handwraps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezo View Post
    not all true, at lower end you will have low amount of dps but, at high end will out dps most fight with your handwraps.
    I assume you are trying to say:
    At low levels, monks will have low dps
    at high levels, monks will out-dps most fighters with handwraps?

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    Except they implemented these nifty rings see...

    http://community.codemasters.com/for...d.php?t=393789

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    Must be we are looking at different Ftr builds!

    I've seen many a "tank" that will take it to the enemy!

    But hey! you never know, maybe the newcomer knows something we dont!

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    A well built, well played monk can do significant dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    A well built, well played monk can do significant dps.
    true but there are few of those around
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkoHighStar View Post
    true but there are few of those around
    I've only played with a handful. I was simply offering a truth
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    Because if there was just one fighting class, one spell caster class, one stealth class, and one healing class - we might as well be playing Gauntlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    Because if there was just one fighting class, one spell caster class, one stealth class, and one healing class - we might as well be playing Gauntlet.

    Options are a good thing...
    I'd totally play a Gauntlet MMO. "Chartreuse Warrior needs food badly!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantul View Post
    LOL let me put on my +5 icy burst hw of bleeding and turn on wind stance with flurry of blows and tanks can KMA.

    LOL let me equip my +5 Supreme Tyrant greensteel Greataxe of Lightning and Click Power Attack and Rage pot, Madstone, Barb Rage, Frenzy, Death Frenzy and go in and deal more DPS than you could ever DREAM of dealing*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DireWolverine View Post
    I'd totally play a Gauntlet MMO. "Chartreuse Warrior needs food badly!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughguyjoe View Post
    LOL let me equip my +5 Supreme Tyrant greensteel Greataxe of Lightning and Click Power Attack and Rage pot, Madstone, Barb Rage, Frenzy, Death Frenzy and go in and deal more DPS than you could ever DREAM of dealing*.

    XD

    *SuperDuper Uber Monks like Jazzmine not withstanding*
    stop it your gonna give Bo a big head
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkoHighStar View Post
    stop it your gonna give Bo a big head

    I think the real point to be made is that for a fighter to have decent AC it takes more compromises and expensive/rare gear than it does for a monk to have decent AC.

    On the other hand if you want great AC both classes require expensive/rare gear and specialized builds.

    The problem is that the pen and paper rules didnt translate very well to the high lvl game in DDO so fighters have AC issues. They rewote the rules somewhat with enhancements but it was easier to effectively rewrite the rules for monks.

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    Why is there a fighter class?

    That's a question we've been asking since the game came out. Still haven't gotten an answer.
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