OK so i tried to pvp

[whoamilol]

I went into the wayward lobster and there was this guy who was -on fire- like flames comming off of him who was killing everyone. there was a raid party trying to organize a way to hurt him but he kept murdering all 12 of us, and there were like 6 lvl 20s in the group. he wouldn't let ANYONE down! isn't this against the rules?

[Xenus_Paradox]

Nope. Killing people in PvP is kinda what the pit is there for.

Now if he was earthgrabbing/stoning/holding/stunning you and leaving you alive, that would be considered griefing.

[Dragonhyde]

As far as I know the only rule is you can't leave someone in an unmovable state such as flesh to stone or irristable dance etc and just keep going back to extend the "time out"....they have to either kill you or be attempting to

but then I only pvp with groups of friends while waiting for someones raid timer to tick down

[whoamilol]

As far as I know the only rule is you can't leave someone in an unmovable state such as flesh to stone or irristable dance etc and just keep going back to extend the "time out"....they have to either kill you or be attempting to

but then I only pvp with groups of friends while waiting for someones raid timer to tick down

he shows up and makes everyone have to leave. he's technically greifing ppl

[Xenus_Paradox]

he shows up and makes everyone have to leave. he's technically greifing ppl

Um, no. You can stay and either find a way to beat him, or get owned repeatedly. You can also choose to leave. He's not forcing anyone to do anything.

But go ahead and file a harassment report if it makes you feel better.

[Dragonhyde]

not if he is in the pit actually pvping at least according to the way the rules are now....the pits are open to all players level 1-20 in a to the death brawl type scenario.

[whoamilol]

not if he is in the pit actually pvping at least according to the way the rules are now....the pits are open to all players level 1-20 in a to the death brawl type scenario.

how is it possible for one person to kill a raid full of people who are working together and healing each other? is he cheating?

[Dragonhyde]

eh most likely a caster from the discription, able to deal damage from across the room and cc people that close in....the group would have to use tactics to take him down...ie try to trip or stunning blow, have a bard or two attempt to fascinate etc

[Visty]

no, the raidparty just sucked

or he was a sorcerer

[mystoryflavor]

no, the raidparty just sucked

or he was a sorcerer

or he was a warforged

[whoamilol]

or he was a warforged

i know he was warforged but you couldn't see his class or level because he had so many buffs it pushed those things off the top of the screen.
quite a few fireballs and such, which is pretty indicative of sorc.

[Galbbatorix]

how is it possible for one person to kill a raid full of people who are working together and healing each other? is he cheating?

Having personal experience with a full raid group trying to kill me, no it is not cheating, you just need alot of hp, good dps, and have the group of 12 people not know what they are doing.

Now I don't agree with this person killing EVERYONE in the pit, so much that no one can enjoy their time down there, but that's a different story.

But if a full party of 12 is trying to kill this guy and he survived I gotta give him props, not many can do this.

Killing is what the pvp pit is for, so you are just going to have to live with him being down there.

[Korvek]

i know he was warforged but you couldn't see his class or level because he had so many buffs it pushed those things off the top of the screen.
quite a few fireballs and such, which is pretty indicative of sorc.

Not totally certain who, but this sounds similar to a warforged wizard I know of on Argo, though he tends toward Meteor Swarm/Horrid Wilting against anyone with Evasion, which are the only characters I bother to hop into the pit with, as I dislike playing my rather gimped casters in there.

Improved Trip ---> Dead. Worked well enough for me. You just have to be faster than him, which I admit is pretty difficult given the whole "Quickened Enlarged Otto's Irresistible dance" thing makes it hard to get near him. You can't cast backwards though.

And yeah, if your full raid couldn't beat one caster, your raid was pretty weak. For one, avoid using Reflex save based spells on any character whose class levels you can't see (Hint: If you really want to see them, turn off the Show Detailed Examination option in the UI Settings).

Your best bet is to simply use enough straight damage spells that his Repair spells are still on cooldown and he can't get himself up.

[cluedout]

lol i think you met Tukaw

Tukaw build

completely invulnerable except by irresistible dance, and nobody likes that in the pit.

[Beld]

But if you can stay out of his range for a few hits, most casters don't have much in the way of strength, and once he is at 0 and can't cast, he's done.

Trick is to have enough going on that he can't concentrate on just one target at a time and use flanking to your advantage as most spells require you to be facing the target.

[BLAKROC]

or he was a warforged

or a wf sorc even

[rh75]

Turbine needs to put level restictions on who you can pvp, ive seen it in other games and it works fine. Im sure they can come up with something.

There will always be real-life dorks who come into pvp on their high level toons and try to project their authority on low level people to compensate for how pathetic they are.

Adding some rules to stop them will actually be doing them a favor by helping to replace those missing social skills.

[HeeHaw]

Turbine needs to put level restictions on who you can pvp, ive seen it in other games and it works fine. Im sure they can come up with something.

There will always be real-life dorks who come into pvp on their high level toons and try to project their authority on low level people to compensate for how pathetic they are.

Adding some rules to stop them will actually be doing them a favor by helping to replace those missing social skills.

1. He was in there already, and the OP came in to challenge him, not the other way around.

2. There is a level limit: 20. He was 20, and he was fighting at least six other level 20's, according to the OP.

I don't see any problem with organizing different PvP taverns for different level ranges, but that does not seem to be the issue in this case.

[BLITHELY]

U do realize there are more pvp pits all over the city go 2 1 of those if u want 2 fight yr friends. When i want 2 test something or beat on a guildie I go to the phoenix tavern almost never any1 in the pit there.

[sephiroth1084]

He wasn't cheating. I've popped into the PvP pit on my drow wizard 20 and kicked the asses of the 11 other people in group with me, and a few others who popped in to try to take me down. It's definitely very difficult to take out a wizard in PvP. Doable, certainly, but difficult, even for a group of 12--wizards especially just have too many tools at their disposal that both make them hard to kill and give them a way around other characters' defenses. I managed to kill 2 guys while I was dancing--Fire Shield Red and Blue FTW!

The two most dangerous abilities vs. a caster, I think, are Trip and Stunning Blow. Still, it's difficult to get close enough and land that single attack, but I tend to beat casters when on my tank most often when I dodge their attacks and land a trip.

Personally, were I in your position, I'd just suggest heading to another PvP arena. Sure, the Lobster has the most interesting pit, but that just favors casters even more, as they can drop off of the open space to get some distance and heal up or restore their ability damage.