intim question

[Slap_Happy]

i am building a char with intimidate. And I never built a intimidator. What is a acceptable intim at end game?

[Slap_Happy]

i need to know what target i have to hit before i can start with the char builder

[ROVER]

U need 75 to intim DQ on elite, but around 60 u can intim every boss on norm.

[samho]

U need 75 to intim DQ on elite, but around 60 u can intim every boss on norm.

You mean DQ epic, not DQ elite, I guess?

[Slap_Happy]

can someone give me soem examples of ways to get the intim higher here is what i know so far

23 max ranks charisma bonus skill focus plus 15 intim item gh

so say i have a 24 charisma so 23 plus 7 plus 3 plus 4 plus 15 thats only 52 what else could i do?

[mistahnice]

can someone give me soem examples of ways to get the intim higher here is what i know so far

23 max ranks charisma bonus skill focus plus 15 intim item gh

so say i have a 24 charisma so 23 plus 7 plus 3 plus 4 plus 15 thats only 52 what else could i do?

well, you also roll a d20 for any skill checks you perform in the game so you can add 10 to that and get 62, then add excep charisma bonuses, command or persuasion and you start approaching 70

[Cinderbeard]

And you can craft a shroud item for +6 bunus to all charisma skills and take a bard with you for the +5 skill song.

[Shamurai]

I believe adding GH (Greater Heroism) would add another 4 to that, not sure if that stacks with enhancment that gives you bonus to saves/ skills/ rolls etc. and perhaps bard songs might have a stackable in threre as well.

[Rusty_Can]

can someone give me soem examples of ways to get the intim higher here is what i know so far

23 max ranks charisma bonus skill focus plus 15 intim item gh

so say i have a 24 charisma so 23 plus 7 plus 3 plus 4 plus 15 thats only 52 what else could i do?

Let's see:

Build (abilities, enhancements, features, skills):
23 ranks at lvl 20 +
+ 4 - 5 Cha modifier (i.e. 18 or 20 Cha; ofc, it can be higher)
+ 1/2/3/4 from class enhancements for fighters and barbarians
+ 3 Skill Focus: Intimidate
+ 2 Bullhead (it gives also +1 to Will Saves)

Gear:
+ 15 item
+ 1 - 2 Luck bonus item (e.g. Voice of the Master, Head of Good Fortune)
+ 6 Exceptional Charisma Skills item, from Shroud crafting

Buffs:
+ 4 from Greater Heroism
+ 2 from Inspire Competence song

For human characters:
+ 1/2/3/4 from Enhancements, unlocked by Dragonmarks (it's feature-intensive)
+ 2/3/4/5 from human versatility (20 seconds boost)

(Fighter) Prestige Enhancements:
+ 1/2/3 from Kensai I/II/III
+ 2/4/6 from Stalwart Defender I/II/III

And you can craft a shroud item for +6 bunus to all charisma skills and take a bard with you for the +5 skill song.

Inspire Competence song gives only +2 to skills.

[Aranticus]

well, you also roll a d20 for any skill checks you perform in the game so you can add 10 to that and get 62, then add excep charisma bonuses, command or persuasion and you start approaching 70

intim doesnt work that way. intimitanks must have 100% lock on agro

[Rusty_Can]

intim doesnt work that way. intimitanks must have 100% lock on agro

Aye, when parties ask for "intimitanks", they will expect their intimitank to maintain aggro through all the fight, i.e. they will expect you to succeed rolling 1 (whenever possible ofc; some DC go through the roof....).

Keep also in mind that there are size penalties when you try intimidating something bigger than you: e.g. you get a nasty -12 (aye, minus twelve) to your intimidate rolls while trying to intimidate Xizzy in the Hound Raid; a very common penalty is -4.

[Cinderbeard]

Inspire Competence song gives only +2 to skills.

I stand corrected.

Spreading the knowledge on US forums now Rusty? Great to see you here man, it's Ragal.
Did you cross over to play on US servers too? If so which one?

[Mekkah]

Aye, when parties ask for "intimitanks", they will expect their intimitank to maintain aggro through all the fight, i.e. they will expect you to succeed rolling 1 (whenever possible ofc; some DC go through the roof....).

Keep also in mind that there are size penalties when you try intimidating something bigger than you: e.g. you get a nasty -12 (aye, minus twelve) to your intimidate rolls while trying to intimidate Xizzy in the Hound Raid; a very common penalty is -4.

Don't you only suffer a "size penalty" when you're a Halfling?

...or married?

[Rusty_Can]

I stand corrected.

Spreading the knowledge on US forums now Rusty? Great to see you here man, it's Ragal.
Did you cross over to play on US servers too? If so which one?

Howdy^^. Yes, it's me; atm, I'm busy getting blacklisted on Thelanis ^^

Btw, looking at my characters, I reckon there is no knowledge whatsoever to spread O_o

[Rusty_Can]

Don't you only suffer a "size penalty" when you're a Halfling?

...or married?

I think halflings suffer an additional -4 racial penalty due to their size (i.e. they suffer -4 penalty also against medium-sized foes, like humans).

As for the married thing, I have no experience whatsoever ... yet.... *shivers*