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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinQ View Post
    Have you ever considered dropping a combination of Dodge/TWD/Pastlife Ranger for Max/Qkn for self healing? (assuming gear can be changed around to fit in torc)


    A more generic question that extend to all the residential tank/pally experts
    What is the AC sweet spot for a dedicated raid tank?
    Ie. I can see a lot of good tank build with number into 90s~100s, but I assume at some stage there will be a diminishing return set in with getting those numbers


    Assuming goal of the build is to
    Self buff to tank VOD hard/TOD normal while being only scroll healed by a rogue
    Raid buff to tank VOD elite/TOD hard while being only scroll healed by a bard
    Raid buff to tank TOD elite with a multi-tasking cleric/FvS


    And finally a more specific question regarding tanking Horoth on N/H/E
    What would be the HP threshold to ensure that a failed disintegrate (followed by a DOT or 2) won’t automatically kill you
    ive got the torc but i dont wear it. i hardly ever use my loh let alone scroll/spell healing. i dont run with many rangers so dropping the past life feat would be unthinkable. i currently self buff to 87 ac with power attack on. thats 91 with a bard. i feel thats abotu where i wanna be for elite tod. i dont really wanna give up even 2 points of ac at my current ac.
    the max/emp/quicken works really well though. more beneficial to a low ac dps pally thoguh as having those heals are wasted if they arent needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderwolf View Post
    ive got the torc but i dont wear it. i hardly ever use my loh let alone scroll/spell healing. i dont run with many rangers so dropping the past life feat would be unthinkable. i currently self buff to 87 ac with power attack on. thats 91 with a bard. i feel thats abotu where i wanna be for elite tod. i dont really wanna give up even 2 points of ac at my current ac.
    the max/emp/quicken works really well though. more beneficial to a low ac dps pally thoguh as having those heals are wasted if they arent needed.

    +1, Ty for the insight
    The AC threshold seems to be consistence with Quik’s response

    Based on that info, I’ll plan to get my toon to 77 self buff in PA, 82/83 in CE or raid buff, and 91 for both
    As I run EVON6 more often than tanking hard/elite TOD, I’ll prob drop TWD for OTWF

    Last (bunch of) question(s)
    I seems to remember that you also have a Pure Fighter that’s a tank build
    Between the two, which have better DPS? Would it be by a large margin?
    In what situation (particular raid/quest) would you prefer to use the 18/2 as oppose to pure fighter?

    Ty once again
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinQ View Post
    +1, Ty for the insight
    The AC threshold seems to be consistence with Quik’s response

    Based on that info, I’ll plan to get my toon to 77 self buff in PA, 82/83 in CE or raid buff, and 91 for both
    As I run EVON6 more often than tanking hard/elite TOD, I’ll prob drop TWD for OTWF

    Last (bunch of) question(s)
    I seems to remember that you also have a Pure Fighter that’s a tank build
    Between the two, which have better DPS? Would it be by a large margin?
    In what situation (particular raid/quest) would you prefer to use the 18/2 as oppose to pure fighter?

    Ty once again
    my fighter has alittle more dps, the pally has a little more hate. mainly because of the haste boosts.

    i run either of my tanks for the raids. they are fairly interchangable. the pally has slightly more ac , when the fighter has slightly more dps. i prefer my fighter when new content comes out and we are figuring it out as the signifcantly higher intim can be a huge bonus. in more established content ill run either.

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    Hi how do you think this would do with a drow instead of a human?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    Hi how do you think this would do with a drow instead of a human?
    1 less feat and prolly 40 less hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderwolf View Post
    1 less feat and prolly 40 less hp.
    a drow be able to hit the exact same STR/DEX/CON/WIS/CHA as human with similar level of epic gear/tome?

    Base Lv Tome Item Enh Excpt Stance Total
    Str 14 4 3 6 1 4 32
    Dex 16 2 7 2 3 30
    Con 12 3 6 3 4 28
    Int 10 10
    Wis 15 1 3 7 1 1 28
    Cha 16 2 7 2 1 28


    Rapier is a lot weaker vs KPS tho
    but a +3 tome get you CE which is only important if you are not fully geared out and need AC
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    updated with new gear,skills, and enhancements.

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    Quick question: do you ever have occasion to use your monk stances, or did you while leveling up?

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    And one more question: do you find that the invisibility guard effect on the Mabar cloak interferes with your tanking ability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinerd View Post
    Quick question: do you ever have occasion to use your monk stances, or did you while leveling up?
    on portals in shroud i use windtacne and earth strike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinerd View Post
    And one more question: do you find that the invisibility guard effect on the Mabar cloak interferes with your tanking ability?
    the only raid boss so far that ive foudn that you dont wanna use cloak on is the orthon in part 1 of tod.

    the devil in part 2 , horoth , and sully ( both raids) are fine with cloak on.

    the orthon instantly ports and loses agro when you go invis from the gaurd.

    havent tested the devil in part 1 myself so unsure if he ports away.

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    Thanks for the responses.

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    your welcome

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