Frustrated Rant..

[Mecholi22]

Why is this game so empty... its really frustrating me... I keep hearing about this huge influx of new people but I aint seeing it at all.. It took me 2hrs to get a party started for Tears in house P.. by the time we had a full party my XP pot was gone. I've logged in to every server with the same problem. I've never played an MMO that was this hard to find groups as this and this is a group based MMO. Can someone help me? I love this game but its frustrated me to the point of quiting. Ok deep breathe.. time to go back to my console maybe if I give this game another 2 1/2 years come back it will be more active.

[Milamber69]

Hi welcome.

[lugoman]

Problem is many will only play with people in their guild or on their friends list. If you expect to join a team using the lfg window, you will be disappointed - especially at higher levels and raids. At higher levels they will short man things rather than go public. I cant say I blame them a lot of times, but the whole 'pug's suck' thing is way overblown.

I started playing DDO:U when it started f2p. I had no problems getting public teams as I leveled my first toon. I notice it is a lot harder to find teams now on my alt. Even people who started f2p the first time around will not pug as much on their alts. Maybe my experience with pug's just isnt the norm.

[HeavenlyCloud]

Hi welcome.

/signed

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

When I've drunk an xp pot at low levels, I never group, it's always a frantic OMG I NEED TO RUN A QUEST NOW!!! NOW!!!. Waiting for pugs to form/find the quest/share the quest/realize they aren't p2p/realize they don't have the prereqs/die on the way* just takes too long

I recommend you solo up to around 12 or so, it's far quicker.

Garth

*delete as appropriate

[cdemeritt]

Problem is many will only play with people in their guild or on their friends list. If you expect to join a team using the lfg window, you will be disappointed - especially at higher levels and raids. At higher levels they will short man things rather than go public. I cant say I blame them a lot of times, but the whole 'pug's suck' thing is way overblown.

I started playing DDO:U when it started f2p. I had no problems getting public teams as I leveled my first toon. I notice it is a lot harder to find teams now on my alt. Even people who started f2p the first time around will not pug as much on their alts. Maybe my experience with pug's just isnt the norm.

Agreed. I've been playing for some time now, and liked solo play before Mod 9 made it super easy... I've tried to pug several times, and unfortunately it has been very difficult to do so, Not that all the new players are bad or such, but often times they don't want to listen in combo with Point farming/Elite wanting groups with no Idea of what they are walking into/not having the right equipment for Example: (6 lvl 6-8 toons wanting to do a lvl 12 quest on elite ).....

I tried to help several, to be told I don't know what I'm doing, and that will never work... just makes it much easier to do it myself and alone... (or at least with guildies) It's a shame, sometimes you'll find really good pug groups, but not as often as one once would....

[sirdanile]

are you spamming in general chat or are you using the lfm system?

[lugoman]

Agreed. I've been playing for some time now, and liked solo play before Mod 9 made it super easy... I've tried to pug several times, and unfortunately it has been very difficult to do so, Not that all the new players are bad or such, but often times they don't want to listen in combo with Point farming/Elite wanting groups with no Idea of what they are walking into/not having the right equipment for Example: (6 lvl 6-8 toons wanting to do a lvl 12 quest on elite ).....

I tried to help several, to be told I don't know what I'm doing, and that will never work... just makes it much easier to do it myself and alone... (or at least with guildies) It's a shame, sometimes you'll find really good pug groups, but not as often as one once would....

The not listening thing is annoying. I have a feeling some people just dont understand the chat windows and tabs and wont ask for help. The other problem is language barrier, but cant do much about that.

[Tabun]

Hi Welcome

[Heffty_Smurf]

are you spamming in general chat or are you using the lfm system?

I had the same thought when i read the op's post. many new players have not listened to the veterans when it comes to LFMs. also what level is your toon? are you trying to do a quest that should have been done 2-3 levels ago? there are many factors that could help you. for now I would say join other groups and make a name for yourself, then people will join you. also pay attention to the quest level, nost player would rather do a quest when they are under the level of the quest rather than over it. (or at least the good ones) there is no shortage of players, most of the higher end players are in channels or guilds that work within themselves, even when rerolling or TRing they stick together or solo. for now build a name and the groups will come.....and hi welcome

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I have never put up an LFM in the grouping panel and not had it fill quickly. Also there is no reason to wait for a full group. With dungeon scaling any group will do. Put up an LFM, wait 5-15 minutes, start. If you want, leave it up marked "in progress" and others might join.

Whatever you do DON'T put your LFM in general chat, that will just convince the good players not to join you, even if you also have a proper LFM up.

Also don't take those XP pots at low level. Honestly there is far more xp in quests than you need. If you want to spend $ on XP pots, hold off until L14+ where the XP requirements are much greater and there is less variety of quests.

[Kistilan]

There are several guides on the key quests to levelling in the User-Written Guides Forum, if you just want to get xp, as it seems that's your goal with the xp pot running out. If you're after variety quests, don't be so preemptive and use an xp pot. The time to use an xp pot is at the later levels, as Lorien said, and with a plan and possibly a semi-static group that can handle the quests you've picked to run into the ground. For instance, at level 12 or 13 a good group with a sorc and a strong hit-point barb (especially wf'd where the sorc can lay a few recons at appropriate times) will rock Trial By Fire in 7-11 minutes a run on elite. Couple that with your XP Pot and that's two levels done in a night of gaming. Throw some Madstones and Crucible runs in for good measure at the end of it.

And if you really want to crank the xp, have at least one player in your party be very familiar with the quest so you can follow their lead and then adjust on the second run through to expedite the process.

[RangerOne]

Using the LFM panel will get a better class of weasel as David Letterman would say.

I have noticed fewer folks around the last couple of days, but we are heading into the holidays and many might just be busy with other things.

I'm not currently active on Argonessen, but I did notice the other night on Cannith that the LFM had more groups going for quests higher than my toon's level. Then I realized that they would have been perfect for the first character I had rolled there. The quests mature with the character and as new people level up new needs will form.

OP did not indicate if she was VIP or not. I'm F2P, but have purchased points. (Technically I'm premium) because you also need to have the content that others are playing and some of the most popular groups (STK, Sharn, Delaera) are pay adventures.

[Quietstorm]

/wave, welcome to argo

[sephiroth1084]

First, how are you trying to form groups? Are you using the Social Panel to create a group, or are you using LFG or chat channels? Generally, vets completely ignore the last two, and chat channels are restricted to a particular area, so you won't be broadcasting to the entire populace.

Second, if you are putting up an LFM, how are you wording it. Sometimes this plays a factor in how likely you are to get help. For instance, I tend to avoid LFMs that are in all caps, have incredibly poor spelling (not funny poor, but hard to understand poor), or that lead me to believe the run will go badly (such as an LFM asking for a healer when one is already in the group, or requesting some class/race/role that either isn't necessary or excludes other possible choices).

Third, what time are you playing? While the population for the game does span the globe, the majority of players are from the United States, and therefore the bulk of the population tends to be on during a particular range of times. Also, while the European, Asian and Oceanic players are scattered across a few servers, there are a few where they tend to congregate more, so if you're playing in one of their time zones (or time schedules) you may want to try to find which server is best in that regard.

Finally, have you joined a guild? Most guilds seem to be fairly casual, so membership isn't difficult to obtain or maintain, and they tend to provide more grouping options, as you'll have a base of people to look to when you wish to run something.

[Uska]

If your spamming in general for group members myself and many others will ignore you or even possibly squelch you. There is a lfm tool and vets usually prefer it. I see more people playing now then I have since the first month of the game.

[knightgf]

Tell me about it. I have TONS of trouble finding people in the LFM to do the Vale of Twilight quests, I haven't seen a LFM for the Vale of Twilight raid yet and its supposed to be the most popular raid in the game...

By the way the guild I am in has more low levels than high levels, and its impossible to find ANYONE who wants to join a guild thats around level 15-20...

[storm357]

As others have said, Most of the vets and even many new players have switched over to grouping within set chat chanels that are by invite only as well as with in guild.
Like it or hate it, its been in direct responce to that same influx of new players and some of the worst grouping experiances since the games launch.

[sephiroth1084]

Tell me about it. I have TONS of trouble finding people in the LFM to do the Vale of Twilight quests, I haven't seen a LFM for the Vale of Twilight raid yet and its supposed to be the most popular raid in the game...

By the way the guild I am in has more low levels than high levels, and its impossible to find ANYONE who wants to join a guild thats around level 15-20...

You can always start your own LFM.

Also, the Vale of Twilight raid is called The Shroud, and tends to have several groups running it a night (on Khyber anyway).

[Mecholi22]

I've been playing since its went F2p and yes I only use Social Panel for groups, I dont spam (thats just annoying). I mostly form my own groups but it has been horrible lately. I've tried the guild thing but since I'm f2p they quickly out lvled me. I've been trying to get adventures to fix that.. but due to problem stated those adventure packs feel like wasted TP. Also I hate to solo, I would just go play Final Fantasy or some other Rpg if I wanted to play alone.