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    Default 36 pt 18/2 wiz/rogue, planning now

    Big edit from 18/2 to 17/1/2

    Ok, at 2.9 mill xp now....Varr was 18/2 fs/monk, 16/2 pali/monk now powering to 20. Plan is to reincarnate into my end game completionist build now to make sure I can live with the leveling process. Could stop after this roll, or be frozen for awhile awaiting the ability to true reincarnate a third time.....

    This is a 36 pt improved version of Varr on Thelanis really.

    Halfling LG 17/1/2 Wiz/Rogue/Monk

    12 str
    16 dex
    14 con
    16 int + level ups
    14 wis
    10 cha

    Feats: 1 Rouge, 2-8 Wizard, 9-10 Monk, 11+ Wizard
    1 Great Axe (Maelstrom and Carniflex should get some type of useage, change to least mark of healing at level 6)
    2 Extend
    3 Toughness
    6 Max
    6 Lesser Mark of Healing
    9 greater mark of healing
    9 Combat Expertise
    10 Dodge
    12 Two Weapon Fighting
    13 Empower
    15 Two Weapon Defense
    17 Heighten
    18 Quicken

    Ac at 6=36, 12=47, 18+60

    Equiptment
    Tumbleweed
    Titans grip
    Torc/silverflame
    (have all above and madstone boots when I want to get squirly)

    Armor:
    Dragon touched +6 cha +5 resist Glacation 8 +1 ac rit (built and done)
    Dragon touched Smiter
    Dragon touched Ac
    Dragon touched Guard
    Blue Dragon robe (12 scales so far)
    Black Dragon leather (3 scales so far)
    White Dragon plate (4 scales so far

    Items to craft in order:
    Goggles poss (built) (wiz 6 +1 cha skills) neg (pro fear/posion) (+6wisdom +10 dip/hag) poss/neg (+100 sp +3 cha skills) (con opp regeneration on hit)

    Boots earth (+10 hp +1 con skills) pos (+50 sp +2 cha skills) (2 stoneskin clickies) earth/poss (+20 hp +3 con skills) (100% fort +5 protection)

    Main weapon set Kama pos (holy) Earth (flamming burst) (2 Stoneskins) Earth/poss (+4 ac) (Mineral)

    Main weapon set Kama ice (frost) air (shocking burst) (2 polar rays) air/ice (+2 dex) (freezing ice)

    Helm fire (greater fire resist) air (+15 hp +2 dex skills) (displace x 3) fire/air (+2 reflex saves) (perma blur)

    morning star/light mace (both built) pos (holy) pos (goodburst) (res clicky) pos (1 each (30% healing amp +4 ac)) (greater disruption)

    Pack of misc clickies

    That is my plan for short term and long. Assuming true res #2 doesn break me this gear target should be useful for most reincarnations and will be built as I go. I have 6 or 7 diff end game dr bypassers so min 2's are low on my list atm.

    Feel free to comment or offer suggestions.....post is as much a self note as it is looking for review.
    Last edited by Varr; 01-08-2010 at 02:36 AM.
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    Hard to justify not going WF on a build like this IMO. Sure, the dragonmarks halfling is fairly self sufficient, but IMO toasters work better. Drop 3 marks, pick up Quicken and a pair of extra feats (Toughness, Mental Toughness, maybe Finesse or Power Attack). Unlimited self healing via Recon scrolls as well.

    Nothing wrong with a Halfling of course, but when you want toast (a Wizard), use a toaster.

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    I would swap con with Dex or maybe lower str and add to con.

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    I'd try to get the first reincarnation and then ask yourself if it's really worth the second. First one is so annoying... I can't imagine the penalty being double.. and then doing that 9 more times.

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    I agree wf version is superior. Can't trade for more con unless 2 for 1 and even at 36 pts I'm trying to do alot of things which requires me to be build efficent with start up pts.
    First rencarnate has not much bottered me (13 was a burden) but I am aware the xp curve on this next on will be more stringent and could make me change my completionist goals to simply a double reincarnate. Will have to see how 4.6 works.
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    Healing side note......because of umd.....will be able to heal scroll identically to recon.

    Trading self cast mana useing recons and a greater mana pool with say two mental toughness feats for about 3500 pts of mana free heal anyone marks. It is about a wash as far as feats and mana vs marks, the added ep demands is where it hurts the halfling most from my experiance.
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    To make things more complicated, Ive decided to erode my dc's and pen by one each and reach for AC. Totaly revamped the origional build. Should be finally ready for reincarnate #2 buy Sunday or so.
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    hhmmm... melee wizards :-/, the low BAB is not a problem?

    Are you soloing a lot, or going with groups? If the first it sounds like an okay build to get a wiz past life, if the second how about picking 3 rogue levels, instead of the 2 monks? you'll get a 2d6 sneak attack bonus (unless you plan to solo most time, don't know from description) and you get drop wisdom, don't know if the monk levels are worth it, you get Envasion eitherway from the rogue.

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    If going rogue, I would freeze at 18/2. Going from 1 rogue to 3 adds one d6 to this build. The monk levels allow for fast vorp kamas and a stretch to a respectible ac for normal content (which is about all the is run on Cannith.). Monk pays for two of the three ac feats. This is a better caster than my controller build. Really not melée focused, just marginally capible. With divine clickies, gh, +5 shroud weapons, +3 vorps and bloodstone combo.......to hit is not an issue as I streach my mana.

    Past life fs will offset pen loss. Giving up 2 int, one wis level, one feat for good(not great) ac.

    Trying to do to much is a common problem for players.....I'm able to effectivly cast, melée, defend ac/saves/hp with this build at level appropriate normal content. More focus in pen/DC is required for elite content....that is what I'm sacrificing (elite content productivity.)

    I will be a solo zerger with lfm's up all the time for joiners....ie, grouped almost 100% of the time. It is a complicated build......but at 36 pts, with all the tasty raid gear at min level to use......this little guy is going to dominate/fly thru level app normal content and be adjustible for the occational hard/elite. What I need to avoid is doing level 10 quests on elite at level ten, I need to do them at level thirteen with no xp lose.
    Last edited by Varr; 01-08-2010 at 10:15 AM.
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    Level one and geared up. Tonight begins the fun!!!! Finally shear that pali skin and ready to tear it up!!!! All welcome, lfm zergs are about to comence!
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    With the changes to pale master I would suggest going 18 wizard 2 rogue so you can get the lich forms and pale master 3.
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    IMO I would go 1barb 2rog 16wiz wf. You can melée have that extra toughness enhancement self heal rog skills and good dps.

    Str
    int
    con
    and some wis for saves

    ac is pretty pointless an what are gaurds for with gear you have unlimited manna which is unlimited heals and melée+firewall=good and evasion high hp and rog skills makes you able to do thread jobs in a quest and going wf allows you to take other feats besides the halfljngbealing ad if you do go
    completioninist this is a great end build IMO to max your skills and melée
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    I don't enjoy the point of view warforges offer......the scaling up twice with a double reincarnate.....just doesn't work for me. They a moving door normally, freaking running a mac truck when double grown is a no go for me.

    Hehe, the halfling is pretty skinny tall as is. I do recognize I'm forcing even more specialty gear and build requirements by rolling a halfling instead of wf, but works much better for me visually.

    While curious about the other pres, pale master does not draw me at all.

    Caster ac is usually a joke....but, if you have time to farm, only one toon to equipt, and every item in the game at your fingertips.....jetting arround with a 60-62 ac (toggling de back on after spell casting) is a noticible different.

    I have zero interest in epic (all that does for me is upgrade useable raid items from level 13ish to never to be used 20 min.). Might twist the last few feats a bit with improved two weapon or not....

    Level 2 and 3 have been silly so far (maelstom -1 level since I'm lg is a bab1-1=0. Aid hero blah blah blah....no hit issues of course....it mows done those poor le kobalds.)

    Carniflex at 4 with ac rit +3 mith chain will be playing with hobs soon enough. Won't even really be trying much casting until haste at 5/1 beyond shield spells and occational webs at 10% spell failure.
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