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    Default Why does stone of change refuse some items?

    Yesterday I tried for the first time Stone of Change in Marketplace. I tried to bind/attune several items. The Stone refused ("ominous grinding sound") boots and cloak -- neither was bound, and cloak was already permanently damaged. It successfully bound/attuned Muckbane (which was bound already), and ring of swimming. Why are some items rejected?

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    Was there a minimum level on either item?

    You need ML^2 khyber dragon shards to bind an item. If there is no minimum level, it takes 400, as it assumes the item is level 20 for some reason. (20*20)

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    No, I specifically checked for that. Expeditious Boots are minimum level 1, and got rejected.

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    The only other reason I could see that they would get rejected is if they were an end reward that was bound already. You didn't get them from Sharn did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedwin View Post
    The only other reason I could see that they would get rejected is if they were an end reward that was bound already. You didn't get them from Sharn did you?
    You can still attune bound items (it's necessary to apply a ritual on them).

    No idea why it didn't work, sorry. 400 khyber fragments should be enough. Unless they tried to "fix" the no ML bug and accidentally broke something...

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    I'm having similar issues. +2 Flaming Returning Throwing Hammer of Righteousness is ML6. When I place it and 36 Khyber Dragonshard Fragments into the Stone of Change, I get "Failure! The device shudders ominously, then emits a threatening rumble. Nothing else seems to have happened."

    What gives?

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    Default you said they had permanent damaged, but do they have regular damage

    I don't think you can bind items that are damaged (not at the maximum not including permanent damage).

    Would have to recheck, but I think I had this issue before, and the items just needed to be repaired and then it worked.


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    Default As to the thrower, they are bugged

    it is a known issue


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    I'm having similar issues. +2 Flaming Returning Throwing Hammer of Righteousness is ML6. When I place it and 36 Khyber Dragonshard Fragments into the Stone of Change, I get "Failure! The device shudders ominously, then emits a threatening rumble. Nothing else seems to have happened."

    What gives?
    I always stick in a stack MORE than what is min required. Why? It will take what it needs. No need to make a special small stack for it. (Yes, I'm lazy.)

    Make certain that you have it repaired before you attempt.

    I also wonder if the new "starter" attribute is messing up the stone of change a bit. I know, not your case, Carpone.

    Beyond those two.. I got nuth'n.

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    It is possible to open the Stone of Change dialog box and put items into the stone, but for failure to occur upon forging because you aren't standing close enough to the stone. Don't know why, but it happens.
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    I'm not able to bind any throwing items.
    This is probably because they don't take damage from normal use.
    I wouldn't worry about it, just keep the item Locked and forget about it.


    As for the wearables that cannot be bound, I have never run into that myself so I have no idea, sorry.

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    Make sure the items have no Temporary Damage.. Repair FIrst. THen Bind and Atune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaervas View Post
    I'm not able to bind any throwing items.
    ^^ This. I'm trying to bind a Returning thrown weapon.

    I put in 1000 shards: Rejected.
    I'm standing on the Stone of Change: Rejected.
    My item has no temporary damage.

    Next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    ^^ This. I'm trying to bind a Returning thrown weapon.

    I put in 1000 shards: Rejected.
    I'm standing on the Stone of Change: Rejected.
    My item has no temporary damage.

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    Think of it like a studio 54 for ingridients. The right combo gets you in no problem the big star collectibles like the vials of pure water and silver flame hymnals and lightning split soarwoods get right in..heck they even throw in a pity let in for the prayer beads though they have to come in a pack.

    Then you got other things that dont fit in there and instant rejection

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    At this time you cannot bind any throwing weapons, I'm not sure exactly why but all I can think of is because they are all coded similar and most of them are not returning. Just as you can bind no arrows to yourself (again i believe it is because most don't return). Until they rewrite the coding to allow returning items to be bound you will just have to lock them in inventory and deal with the damage they can do.

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    The reason you can't put Throwing Weapons or Ammunition in Stones of Change is, at least to my guesswork, that otherwise people could do things like charge 20 Shroud Powercells using only a single stack of arrows.

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    Default yep, failure

    i successfully attuned my Roguebane Breastplate Medium Armor, but unequipping/unlocking the armor and taking the 15 prayer beads and 5 vials of pure water out of my bag and putting them into the Stone of Change results in a failure message. the armor is freshly repaired with no permanent damage and was not previously bound.

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