Invaders! And you want the cleric to do what?

[pumagirl418]

i do not pug invaders as caster or cleric anymore. most tanks get in there and cannot help but run in. Honestly, i rarely even feel generous and throw up the completed quest either. buffs needed: poison, fire, cold, acid, gh, deathward. nice buffs to have: blur, jump, stoneskin. everything else is a waste. quicken on a cleric is required. sneak for beholders, run for cover when needed. I have been solo'ing invaders for months now, and I have friends who solo on tanks. sounds like to much work for me. effective spells: insta death, banish spells. oh and its nice to have a weapon of some sort when you get tensor's. personally i have dreamspitter (p2p reaver's fate quest)

to be generous, yes one of the OLD ways was to let the tanks go in and tank and raise them when they died.

[Kralgnax]

I did it the first (and only time, so far) at level 10, and with inadequate gear, initially the wrong spells, and totally inadequate preparation. Ugh!

Semi-related question: Does anti-magic ray dispel blade barrier?

[Impaqt]

I did it the first (and only time, so far) at level 10, and with inadequate gear, initially the wrong spells, and totally inadequate preparation. Ugh!

Semi-related question: Does anti-magic ray dispel blade barrier?

no. THe antimagic ray will only Interupt spells you are in the process of casting and wipe any buffs you have.

Any Persistent AOE spells survive.

[Zenako]

no. THe antimagic ray will only Interupt spells you are in the process of casting and wipe any buffs you have.

Any Persistent AOE spells survive.

Back in the day, a wizard with Enlarge Spell and Cloudkill could cruise thru Invaders pretty much....

[gwlech]

Invaders - Deathblock, lots of HPs, lots of damage...piece of cake, seriously, you don't even need a healer.

[Aranticus]

Invaders is an ugly quest, and you are going to be rezing, and restoring - a lot. Ideally you want to work the fight so that you (healer) are in LoS of your party and out of LoS of the beholders. Easy to say, hard to do.

It's easier if you have a warforge with deathblock (Ideally, everyone has death block) to position the beholders, as they're at least immune to the negative levels.

clerics can contribute much more to a party than just rez, restore and heal. greater command works on the reavers as will holy smite blind them. at L11 with access to L6 spells, banish and blade barriers rock. in fact, if a L11 cleric doesnt come out of invaders on top or near top of kill count, i'd be seriously wondering the ability of the person behind the controls

[Bloodhaven]

How to kill Beholders at low level:

1. Keep moving. <Beholders kill with their rays. Rays can be avoided.>
2. Web them. <Web is a str based save and works wonders on beholders.>
3. Take their str away. <Beholders can't cast with 0 strength.>

No arcane in the group? Skip step 2 and go to step 3. Bring a weakening ranged weapon or beter Bring 6!

How to cast at a beholder:

1. Inch up on the beholder until you can target it.
2. Spam the spell you want to use on the beholder as you move even closer.
3. After you cast your spell move away or out of LOS until the anti magic field wears off. Repeat as needed.



Spells that work well on beholders:

Web
Finger of death
Flesh to stone
Destruction

I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I use to kill beholders.

[Maxwell1380]

How to kill Beholders at low level:

1. Keep moving. <Beholders kill with their rays. Rays can be avoided.>
2. Web them. <Web is a str based save and works wonders on beholders.>
3. Take their str away. <Beholders can't cast with 0 strength.>

No arcane in the group? Skip step 2 and go to step 3. Bring a weakening ranged weapon or beter Bring 6!

How to cast at a beholder:

1. Inch up on the beholder until you can target it.
2. Spam the spell you want to use on the beholder as you move even closer.
3. After you cast your spell move away or out of LOS until the anti magic field wears off. Repeat as needed.



Spells that work well on beholders:

Web
Finger of death
Flesh to stone
Destruction

I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I use to kill beholders.

I have actually had some success with symbol of persuasion too. Let the flensers kill the beholders or die trying!

[Tinfoot]

Heh.... Clerical Math (Option B): Enlarge+Destruction = Hey, squiggly eyes... you can't see me, but I see yoooz. -KAPLOW-

I personally dinna know about the Weakening/Enfeeblement bows effectiveness, so great tip there.

[Impaqt]

Heh.... Clerical Math (Option B): Enlarge+Destruction = Hey, squiggly eyes... you can't see me, but I see yoooz. -KAPLOW-

I personally dinna know about the Weakening/Enfeeblement bows effectiveness, so great tip there.

And what do you do when you get to the End boss?

[Bunker]

So tell me, is the only reason for a cleric to be on a mission heavy with death magic users simply to clean up the party wipe after everyone dies?

Answer: No.

You are also in party to fetch Ale for the thristy Elite in the tavern after the mission.

"Make it four boilermakers", says Seabass.

[cardmj1]

Obviously, that ranger has no clue to the abilities of a cleric. This is a perfect quest clerics to go offensive. Banishment, destruction, dismal, blade barriers, symbol of persuasion, symbol of weakening, even a searing light here or there and you will rock.

My fave move is to get into one of the little cubby holes around the corner of a beholder. Cast a maximed extended blade barrier and pull him back if the I miss on the destruction. Run back to the cubby and he will sit there in my blender until he is a soupy mess.

[Elation]

Hmmm Not sure what the problem is my wife soloed invaders today on her lvl 12 sorce? Whats the issue

[Aspenor]

A hot shot ranger using a bow? He was obviously not a hotshot, he was a moron.

[Impaqt]

Hmmm Not sure what the problem is my wife soloed invaders today on her lvl 12 sorce? Whats the issue

Comparing a Personon Soloing Invaders to a Full group is just Silly nowadays.

Due to HP Scaling a Single Cone of Cold can take out 10 Renders/reavers.... and PK works extreamly reliably onteh Beholders.. not tomention a Wall of Fire will quickly dispatch the boss.

[Zenako]

A hot shot ranger using a bow? He was obviously not a hotshot, he was a moron.

Time for the Ranger Guild to revoke that one's license to shoot....

[samho]

And what do you do when you get to the End boss?

Wasn't the end boss beholder (assume they meet one) orange name as well?

So all the trick vs beholder should continue working (just higher save), and due to the door size of the end room ...

Meh, you can even just Holy Smite / Order's Wrath it until death, as well as Deific Vengeance (you don't need a very good line of sight to fire this, unlike searing light -- as it can't be dodge unless target was behind you)

[Zenako]

Comparing a Personon Soloing Invaders to a Full group is just Silly nowadays.

Due to HP Scaling a Single Cone of Cold can take out 10 Renders/reavers.... and PK works extreamly reliably onteh Beholders.. not tomention a Wall of Fire will quickly dispatch the boss.

Now if she soloed it on Elite, that is nice...no scaling there....