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    Default Group vote to boot

    This has probably been suggested, but after a string of PUG's with people that just zoned in and stood there while we did the quest, I felt the need to say SOMETHING.

    I know that you do not want to have one person with the ability to just boot someone out. How about the group doing it though?

    I feel that this would help address the issue of people piking their way through the levels, along with other issues. I've had someone say they had to go while running Tangleroot, exit the quest when we were done, but stay in the explorer area. This prevented us from removing him from the group and inviting someone else to complete the quest series. I know all we had to do was go out into the tavern and disband, but honestly... sometimes it is difficult enough to get a group of people to just GET to the quest without explaining we now have to all recall, reform and go back out.

    Maybe to help prevent abuse, the vote would have to either be a majority, or minimum 4 people. Once the vote passes, there could be a timer for the person to be removed. This would help prevent griefing I would imagine.


    I'm sure this has been suggested somewhere, I just didn't have the time to search through and bump the thread, so here's someone else saying, Give us an option to boot! Why should these people be rewarded for our work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zynthar View Post
    ...I'm sure this has been suggested somewhere, I just didn't have the time to search through and bump the thread, so here's someone else saying, Give us an option to boot! Why should these people be rewarded for our work?
    Suggested many times. Many, many times. USA, EU, everywhere. Probably on day 1. Or maybe on day 1 it was possible to boot, but was then removed.

    It's a 'ticky' subject. Can be used for griefing. And if it can, it will, standard MMO rule. Forums flames if you can boot, forums flames if you can't.

    If i'd be a dev, i'd just ignore this problem. You can't win whatever you do.

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    The group leader being able to boot in quest was not commonly misused. This would be even safer.
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    People can whimsically put a boot suggestion up and others will just follow because of peer pressure.

    If you really need to boot recall and reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyr View Post
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    The group leader being able to boot in quest was not commonly misused. This would be even safer.
    Was a much different player base then. Boot would be widely abused now I'm afraid

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    11 guild, 1 pug. Bad ju ju.

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    We used to be able to boot folks from the party. It was abused, it was removed. There are times when I would LOVE to be able to boot someone, not just from party but from the game. But it is not worth the potential for griefing.
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    no. TOo much latitude for greifing still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zynthar View Post
    after a string of PUG's
    A string of PUG's???

    This could be a clinical condition.

    Were you gratifying yourself at the time?
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    This cannot work.Once you have been playing a while,you will not only get much better to avoid these situations but you will also (hopefully) have made a few friends and or guild to run with.Problem solved without changing anything for anyone else.

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    If he's bad enough to want to boot him, regroup and start over. If you're so far into the quest that you don't want to restart it, why not just finish it?

    His XP has no impact on yours. It sounds like you just want to boot him to spite him for piking. The only impact his piking has on your party is that he takes up a spot that an active member could have filled. But if you've gotten so far into the quest that it hasn't mattered so far, you probably don't need the help. If you NEED he help, you're not going to finish anyway so recall and start over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draccus View Post
    If he's bad enough to want to boot him, regroup and start over. If you're so far into the quest that you don't want to restart it, why not just finish it?

    His XP has no impact on yours. It sounds like you just want to boot him to spite him for piking. The only impact his piking has on your party is that he takes up a spot that an active member could have filled. But if you've gotten so far into the quest that it hasn't mattered so far, you probably don't need the help. If you NEED he help, you're not going to finish anyway so recall and start over.
    It becomes freeloading then. I don't want freeloaders to level. I'd reform the party, even if I am at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorWhofan View Post
    It becomes freeloading then. I don't want freeloaders to level. I'd reform the party, even if I am at the end.
    And that's why Turbine would not add a boot mechanism. If there is no gameplay reason to boot him, they won't add it.

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    Any group that can agree to kick a person is a group that can agree to recall/reform without the person they wanted to kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draccus View Post
    If he's bad enough to want to boot him, regroup and start over. If you're so far into the quest that you don't want to restart it, why not just finish it?

    His XP has no impact on yours. It sounds like you just want to boot him to spite him for piking. The only impact his piking has on your party is that he takes up a spot that an active member could have filled. But if you've gotten so far into the quest that it hasn't mattered so far, you probably don't need the help. If you NEED he help, you're not going to finish anyway so recall and start over.
    The other possibility is, it HAS mattered, but you will only notice it when the casters run out of mana. And even then it's only the cleric who pays the bill so you might overlook it.

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