I hate Barbarians...

[DoctorWhofan]

haggle's always good .. even if you only have 10-20 in it after a +13/15 item, you're still saving money those times that you're not selling via a hagglebot (if you have one, that is)

Then scratch that and just keep on using them bastard swords. Personally, I like the look of the Bastard Swords better anyway

I do have a hagglebot, only level 11 but still...

I was collecting Bastard swords in the game from, I dunno, when I started?? My orginal pally was going to be a BS user, but she, well, sucked worse than my #4 character (Currently level 17 pally-24 STR Oh yeah, TruRES for him!) so she got re rolled into a cleric.

My hubby has a BS user, and my fighter/pally uses them too. SO between the two of us, we got some NICE ones, like pure good/ghost touch, holy/disruption, G. Construct bane, silver/pure good, the one from Invaders, acid/vorpal.

[DoctorWhofan]

If you're not going to DD and search, than you don't need such a high intelligence..I'd go back to the template. It's an interesting twist though, and you should go for it if it's important to you.

I just feel like, I dunno I am wasting that rogue level. I know, evasion open lock, skill points...I like to get the most out of the character's class(es) My Clogue does pretty well, at 12 (2rogue/10clerc) he can get all the traps on normal/hard...elite is sketchy. But he was an Drow (another slated forTruRES) so no human adaptibilty to boost.

[tc12]

Do not dump dex or wisdom. Now at the cost of insightful reflexes you can move points from dex into intelligence.

max str
1 point per point buy into con
rest in dex and wisdom

Especially on a 2 rogue build because without dex evasion will not work.

I'd go Dwarf for 18 barb /2 ro 2WF. The evasion just fits so well the DEX spend needed for 2WF anyway. And the +5 spell defense Dwarves get make you're evasion much more reliable, and can make up for a low starting WIS. INT to match the skills you want to maintain, besides max UMD you could easily maintain a decent Open lock score as a help when you solo. That Dwarvest get up to 16 CON with 1:1 point buy, along with racial CON enhancements is nice too.

[Zynthar]

Why the intimidate if you plan on soloing mostly?

If you have the points to spare, intimidate can actually be useful still. I think you said somewhere a few pages back that you weren't going to be solo'ing exclusively. Having a decent intimidate is never a bad thing on a melee. I've helped avoid near-wipes plenty of time's on my kensai with a timely intimidate. Do I do it all the time? Nope! He's DPS. Is it great to have another tool to help CC a little? Oh yeah. It's all about having a nice bag of tricks.

[gizmos19]

Do not dump dex or wisdom. Now at the cost of insightful reflexes you can move points from dex into intelligence.

max str
1 point per point buy into con
rest in dex and wisdom

Especially on a 2 rogue build because without dex evasion will not work.

sorry i am real late on this one. every one pls read her specs on what she want's to play .
a THF . that can heal up a bit inbetween rounds .. mass amounts of HP great sord user .
simpel as that

[DoctorWhofan]

sorry i am real late on this one. every one pls read her specs on what she want's to play .
a THF . that can heal up a bit inbetween rounds .. mass amounts of HP great sord user .
simpel as that

If TWF works, then I am ok. I am trying to get a grip on the class, and trying to take the blinders off the "Mana Sponge" stigma that I, among others feel they are. I have often said to others "Walk a mile in my class's boots..." I should live up to that philosophy myself.

For that matter, I can't seem to play Ranger either, but that's more boredom than anything.

Anyways, making a healing Barbarian (self heal between rages) really makes sense. But is Ranger better or Rogue?

[Kriogen]

...Anyways, making a healing Barbarian (self heal between rages) really makes sense. But is Ranger better or Rogue?

Rogue2/Barbarian18 is your best option. Not trapsmith, just UMD.

Ranger gives you wand usage, rogue (umd) gives you wand usage and scroll usage (Heal scrolls) and rr/align items usage.

Rogue2 also gives you Evasion.
Ingame we get hit by physical and magical damage. Many/most high end boss monsters are battle mage type, eq: Harry hits in melee and spams fire.

Barbs have hard time to get solid AC at high levels. With Evasion you would atleast have protection vs 1/2 incoming damage, magical/elemental part.

You can say, that Evasion Barb (Rog2/Barb18) would be a lesser mana sponge

Dwarf is a good race. Extra saves vs magic (and you have evasion) and Axe enhancements (more damage, dead mobs cant hurt you) and combat tactics enhancements. Trip and Stun will 'save' lots of clerics mana.

If not Dwarf, then Human or WF. Humans gets Improved Recovery (you get healed for more), WFs are immune vs some nasty things.

Barbarians "Mana Sponge"? Unfortunately I can't say that. I would like to, but I can't.
99.99% barbs are. But on euro servers i played with a couple of barbs that where not. They where actually "cheaper" then any other frontliner i have seen. Somehow they moved, attacked, triped, stunned so fast, that mobs couldn't even blink.
But as I said, only a couple where good, **** good, better then everything else combined.

Because of that I can't say that "class" is mana sponge. Player is, but not "class".

[MichaelBerea]

you may have complete agro so stand behind the 74ac pally you're groupped with - you now are sporting a shield even though your hands are holding a GS min II greataxe - the shield is the pally. The mob on a regular attack is swinging at you but the pally is in the way.

LOL That just about made my day, thank you.