No new epics?

[Shade]

No new epics in this update? Really?

We all know gianthold tor is done and has been done for months now, every item for it is in the compedium and whoever writes the known issues seems to think they are even in the live game already!

And VoN series and shroud are being worked on..

So can't we get gianthold tor epic in this update at least?

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Um, item in the compendium means the CONCEPT work is done, plus some text editting that could have been done by interns. It doesn't mean the programming is done.

[Auran82]

Um, item in the compendium means the CONCEPT work is done, plus some text editting that could have been done by interns. It doesn't mean the programming is done.

When the feedback threads for the epic desert quests were 'accidently' spoiled, there was also a thread for Epic Gianthold Tor, if that means anything.

[Shade]

Poor arguement. The entire dungeon is done. It's a simple fact anyone paying attention to the forums and compedium can see.
It was going to be part of the original epic update and a "feedback: Gianthold tor epic" thread was even posted. I can't believe the devs have such bad communications that they'd let it get that far without it even being done.

It was done over a month ago, it may have had some critical bugs that prevented the release back then ,but there was tons of time to get whatever that was fixed.

The items are definetely done and in the current build, what shows up on the compedium is not "concept" ideas. It's data pulled from the actual live game data files. The data would otherwise not be there if it was not present in the live game files.

The known issues even warn us not to put our epic chained greataxes in the altar because it will break them.. Like they think we already have them.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

When the feedback threads for the epic desert quests were 'accidently' spoiled, there was also a thread for Epic Gianthold Tor, if that means anything.

Just means the same forum guy got all the web content ready at once.

Let me ask you this... if it was ready what would be the business reason not to release it?

[SteeleTrueheart]

Just means the same forum guy got all the web content ready at once.

Let me ask you this... if it was ready what would be the business reason not to release it?

To release it next month and get more praise by having 'quick and regular' updates to the game.

[Auran82]

Just means the same forum guy got all the web content ready at once.

Let me ask you this... if it was ready what would be the business reason not to release it?

Because with the current business model, they are better off releasing small amounts at a time to get people to pay for more.

Hell, releasing Epic GH will probably never be their priority, because it is probably one of the better selling content packs, so making an epic version isn't really likely to sell all that many more because many people will already have it.

Making a new content pack with 5 short quests every month or two is likely to be a better money maker.

I would expect that we will see epic VONs before GH, simply because the VON series is probably not selling as well.

[Lorichie]

Just means the same forum guy got all the web content ready at once.

Let me ask you this... if it was ready what would be the business reason not to release it?

spacing out the content release. i can only assume what we've got recently and what we know/think is coming was done/completed during our very long dry spell. it would make sense to space out what they have, giving them a "buffer" as it were.

Plus, i think epic gianthold will be such a tremendous hit, anything else coming out before/after within close proximity, is going to be drowned out in the store.

thats just me thinking to myself tho.

R

[Lorien_the_First_One]

spacing out the content release. i can only assume what we've got recently and what we know/think is coming was done/completed during our very long dry spell. it would make sense to space out what they have, giving them a "buffer" as it were.

Plus, i think epic gianthold will be such a tremendous hit, anything else coming out before/after within close proximity, is going to be drowned out in the store.

thats just me thinking to myself tho.

R

Good point from all of you who said this... This could easily be a case where the guys in the tinfoil hats have it right and there is a year of development completed, chunked out, and ready to be released in pieces over the next few months.

[Auran82]

Tinfoil hats aside, to me anyway, it just makes sense.

Especially with the space between updates over the last few years, it certainly makes things look a hell of alot better having the updates so close together.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Tinfoil hats aside, to me anyway, it just makes sense..

Just to be clear, that was meant as a joke, no insult meant, I just meant that this time the conspiracy thought may be right.

[Dark-Star]

We found a way for the coming mindsunder quests to show up in the quest log before the current mindsunder quests we have were even released to live.

I'll go with the theory of them releasing stuff a little at a time, and I think it's a smart busimess model. Just look at how happy and surprised people were to get these five new quests.

[sephiroth1084]

Poor arguement. The entire dungeon is done. It's a simple fact anyone paying attention to the forums and compedium can see.
It was going to be part of the original epic update and a "feedback: Gianthold tor epic" thread was even posted. I can't believe the devs have such bad communications that they'd let it get that far without it even being done.

It was done over a month ago, it may have had some critical bugs that prevented the release back then ,but there was tons of time to get whatever that was fixed.

The items are definetely done and in the current build, what shows up on the compedium is not "concept" ideas. It's data pulled from the actual live game data files. The data would otherwise not be there if it was not present in the live game files.

The known issues even warn us not to put our epic chained greataxes in the altar because it will break them.. Like they think we already have them.

Idle speculation from incredibly limited data. Maybe they finished the items ahead of the quests...certainly different developers working on these things.

Maybe they did finish and are releasing a little bit at a time, but they may also not be done. Certainly few people would consider an epic-only update to be a full or even significant update, even from Turbine's point of view, since its essentially adding more content for no additional return.

[sirgog]

spacing out the content release. i can only assume what we've got recently and what we know/think is coming was done/completed during our very long dry spell. it would make sense to space out what they have, giving them a "buffer" as it were.

Plus, i think epic gianthold will be such a tremendous hit, anything else coming out before/after within close proximity, is going to be drowned out in the store.

thats just me thinking to myself tho.

R

It'll probably be a hit with level 20s, but won't make an iota of difference to those who aren't close to that level yet. Most of the new players are some way from 20 still.

[Auran82]

Just to be clear, that was meant as a joke, no insult meant, I just meant that this time the conspiracy thought may be right.

No offence taken, tinfoil hats are the second most effective protection from Ray

[Cyr]

But Shade if they release Epic Gianthold in Update 2 then what are they going to release in Update 3 without having to do some more work? Year down time = way more content then we have seen yet.
/showtinfoilhat

[maddmatt70]

But Shade if they release Epic Gianthold in Update 2 then what are they going to release in Update 3 without having to do some more work? Year down time = way more content then we have seen yet.
/showtinfoilhat

I really hope we see a new raid in update 3. New raids still are the lifeblood of the endgame. My vote would be a new raid with 3-4 flagging quests and epic Vons or GH. That seems like alot of content these days with the new updates coming every 1.5-2 months so perhaps some sort of mix or just a flagging quest and raid with the epic quests.

More prestige enhancements. I am disappointed we will only be getting 2 new prestige enhancements in update 3 whereas I think there should be closer to 8 new ones. I am not sure when we will see some of these prestige enhancements and really do not want to be hoping for the many of the core ones in a year's time.

[Cyr]

I really hope we see a new raid in update 3. New raids still are the lifeblood of the endgame. My vote would be a new raid with 3-4 flagging quests and epic Vons or GH. That seems like alot of content these days with the new updates coming every 1.5-2 months so perhaps some sort of mix or just a flagging quest and raid with the epic quests.

More prestige enhancements. I am disappointed we will only be getting 2 new prestige enhancements in update 3 whereas I think there should be closer to 8 new ones. I am not sure when we will see some of these prestige enhancements and really do not want to be hoping for the many of the core ones in a year's time.

Lol about the PrE's I wrote in another thread that given the current release schedule of the PrE's since EU launched of 2/3 updates/4.5 months we should have the complete list in just under 6 years time And I'm right there with you on the raid.

[Daehawk]

I don't think they would only release Tor as an epic. Would be nice if they released all of Gianthold's quests + raid as an epic.

[ArkoHighStar]

I don't think they would only release Tor as an epic. Would be nice if they released all of Gianthold's quests + raid as an epic.

If they follow the mod 3 model only the flagging quests and the pre raid/raid will be included