My Paladin, continue or start over?

[rmmcrae]

Another question for you Junts. Divine Might asks for a 'base' CHA skill. Is base the starting number or do feats/enhancements/gear add to the "base"?

[Junts]

Another question for you Junts. Divine Might asks for a 'base' CHA skill. Is base the starting number or do feats/enhancements/gear add to the "base"?

Only your starting charisma and tomes count towards base charisma. That's why you start with so much, and with a 32 pt build would start with 17 (to get to 20 with a +3 tome).

Not reaching 20 any time soon will not cripple your build, the difference between DM3 and DM4 is not that much damage (6 vs 8) and starting at 18 cha would cripple your strength.

[William_the_Bat]

Yes, force of personality sounds great, but on most paladins it's overkill.

Your build sounds solid enough, assuming you trade in force of personality and extra turning (you'll have plenty of turns to fuel your divine might, if you need more, use enhancements instead of feats) You'll want all 3 two-handed feats.

[rmmcrae]

Thanks for all the help guys. I have decided I am going to wait till I have 32 point builds available before I redo my Pally. It's the toon I want to really dominate with so in the meantime I am toying with a Cleric, a Wizard and a Fighter with friends.

I will re-work with the suggested changes and re-post the 32 point build for a critique before i take off with it.

[Junts]

Thanks for all the help guys. I have decided I am going to wait till I have 32 point builds available before I redo my Pally. It's the toon I want to really dominate with so in the meantime I am toying with a Cleric, a Wizard and a Fighter with friends.

I will re-work with the suggested changes and re-post the 32 point build for a critique before i take off with it.

There's no need to wait! When greater reincarnation is implemented (probably before you hit 20 anyway) youll be able to redo your stats as a 32 pt build and retain all your loot and tomes.

You might as well get started acquiring it all now!

[rmmcrae]

There's no need to wait! When greater reincarnation is implemented (probably before you hit 20 anyway) youll be able to redo your stats as a 32 pt build and retain all your loot and tomes.

You might as well get started acquiring it all now!

Ok, wow. That is something I did not know. I figured Reincarnation would be 28-28 and 32-32, not able to go 28-32.

Thanks again Junts.

[Junts]

Ok, wow. That is something I did not know. I figured Reincarnation would be 28-28 and 32-32, not able to go 28-32.

Thanks again Junts.

The only way greater reincarnation varies from lesser is that it upgrades 28 pointers to 32s. Otherwise they do exactly the same thing (lesser does go 28>28 and 32>32).

You can't change class level selections with them, but you can redo starting stats, skill points, level ups, etc.

[Syerson]

Dont enhancements add to the base also

[eonfreon]

Dont enhancements add to the base also

No, enhancements do not add to the base, unfortunately.
Only starting stats, tomes, and level up points count towards base.

[rmmcrae]

Started my new Pally this morning. Got him to Level 2 before I had to head in to work. I had a bit of a time decided between Great Sword and Great Axe. I ended up going with a Great Sword for the extra crit.

At what level can expect to start seeing Tomes dropping?

EDIT:

Oh and my LOY are hitting for over three times what they were on my original gimped Pally!!

[Junts]

Use falchions, not greatswords, even wider crit range. Critical range is a really important thing for paladin abilities, since it leads to more critical smites, and more use of divine sacrifice's bonus crit damage.

[rmmcrae]

No, enhancements do not add to the base, unfortunately.
Only starting stats, tomes, and level up points count towards base.

Level up points add to it?

So these are the points you can add at every 4 levels? If this were true I wouldn't need a tome.

[eonfreon]

Level up points add to it?

So these are the points you can add at every 4 levels? If this were true I wouldn't need a tome.

Yes, points added to your stat at levels 4, 8, 12, 16, and 20 count towards the Base.
Most Paladins prefer to put all their level-up points into Str, however, and eat a tome for their Cha.